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post #16 of 29
I am surprised no one has mentioned the trilby so far although I have never been precisely sure what differentiates a trilby from a fedora although I know a trilby when I see it. In fact, I was wearing one this morning! To my mind it would occupy a niche between the "true" fedora and the porkpie. I tend to see the porkpie as a very casual hat, more akin to things like those Irish tweed hats you can stuff in your pocket and such.

I think for wear with normal business attire the fedora is really the only practical choice. In most parts of the country, I think the homburg verges into costume. In my part of the country, the Torah-true Jews overwhelmingly favor black fedoras although some sects wear Central Asian-looking fur hats, which look very peculiar on warm Southern California days. I lived and worked in proximity to the Fairfax district of Los Angeles for many years, but I was never aware of homburgs being particulary favored by Torah Jews.
post #17 of 29
Those fur hats are kind of a homburg.
post #18 of 29
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Originally Posted by JLibourel
I am surprised no one has mentioned the trilby so far although I have never been precisely sure what differentiates a trilby from a fedora although I know a trilby when I see it.

Isn't width of brim the principle difference? (I understand trilbies are narrower.)
post #19 of 29
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Originally Posted by Vintage Gent
Perhaps it was a Milan straw--not as elegant as a Panama, but not without its own charms.
Could be. Though now that I have been promted by this thread to look up Panama hats I see they have not the big floppy things I had envisioned—so it could well have been a Panama.
post #20 of 29
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Originally Posted by Anthony Jordan
Isn't width of brim the principle difference? (I understand trilbies are narrower.)
I'm 99% certian that it is synonomous with fedora
post #21 of 29
What is a good summer hat for use with a suit? Like if you had to stand in the sun at a graduation or wedding. Is a Panama not formal enough?
post #22 of 29
Of true summer hats for men, I think the Panama is easily the most formal and elegant. The really high-quality ones cost an arm and leg--well into the low four figures.

By way of contrast, I think anything much more than $400 for a fur felt hat (and a pure beaver one at that) gets into the realm of gouging.

As for the difference between a fedora and a trilby, I think a trilby is a variant of the fedora that is generally softer, has a relatively narrow brim and hatband and is most commonly brown. Interesting that both got their names from being featured in eponymous theatrical productions.
post #23 of 29
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Originally Posted by contactme_11
What is a good summer hat for use with a suit? Like if you had to stand in the sun at a graduation or wedding. Is a Panama not formal enough?

I'd agree with Jan that a panama should be fine; I regularly wear mine to the office in the summer with a suit. An alternative would be a very lightweight felt hat if you felt uncomfortable with thr light colour of the panama. Alternatively, I seem to remember having seen dyed straw hats on sale recently; a dark straw hat might be another way of approaching the question.

Anthony.
post #24 of 29
Is it taboo to wear a light to cream colored hat with a dark suit?
post #25 of 29
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Originally Posted by contactme_11
Is it taboo to wear a light to cream colored hat with a dark suit?

No.
post #26 of 29
Al Capone favored pured white hats with dark suits, not that I would necessarily single him out as an arbiter elegantiae!
post #27 of 29
I've seen Panamas that cost $20,000.
post #28 of 29
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Originally Posted by contactme_11
Is it taboo to wear a light to cream colored hat with a dark suit?

I would say not, but if you feel you would be uncomfortable with the look, you could approach it by going for a lighter shade, say taupe or light grey, with a dark band - Hochswender's "Men in Style" (a book of 1930s-50s men's fashion illustrations) has one nice picture which shows a lightish brown hat with a black band, whilst my current favourite hat is light grey with a charcoal grey band.

Anthony.
post #29 of 29
On many Panamas, (e.g. Dobbs) the band can be changed quite easily. Generally, I'd think it's correct to wear a Panama with a dark suit, especially if the hat has a dark band. (Done it myself with no ill effect)
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