Right turns on red should be illegal. - Page 2

I hate 'no right on red' lights with an undying passion. At 4 am, and you're the only traffic waiting 45 seconds to a minute for a light to change is ridiculous.

You're such a fucking retard; I need to go smoke a cigarette to calm myself down.

In my previous post, I cited the CA vehicle code for a reason. A cop sees you switch lanes in an intersection and deems that it was unsafe and could have caused an accident, the cop can pull you over and give you a ticket for an "unsafe lane change". Therefore, you are wrong that it is entirely legal. It's more of a gray area because it "legal" if the movement that you are making is safe, but a cop can cite you if he/she deems it unsafe. Although it does not strictly say intersections, the code is written as to be used very broadly by law enforcement. You're also violating this vehicle code as well...21750 "The driver of a vehicle overtaking another vehicle or a bicycle proceeding in the same direction shall pass to the left at a safe distance without interfering with the safe operation of the overtaken vehicle or bicycle, subject to the limitations and exceptions hereinafter stated. " VC 21755 states..."The driver of a motor vehicle may overtake and pass another vehicle upon the right only under conditions permitting such movement in safety”...with a car making a legal right turn on red, passing on the right is not deemed safe. VC 22107 states “No person shall turn a vehicle from a direct course or move right or left upon a roadway until such movement can be made with reasonable safety . . . ” Are you figuring it out? You are definitely in the wrong. If the person making the right turn on red saw you in the outside lane and made his legal movement, whereas you then switched lanes, it's your fault as you violated the aforementioned vehicle codes. For the last sentence, coming to a stop past the marked line is in violation of the vehicle code as well.

do you ever think, tyronefig, that the problem isn't with everyone else... and that it may actually be you? you complain that people take your posts the wrong way, but you've started some of the dumbest threads i've ever seen. sure, you tell me in your sig i don't have to read them, but i see such dumb thread titles that i just have to read them to see if they're real(ly that stupid). and...they are.

What about when one makes a right from a stop sign? That shit really pisses me off!!!!!!!! Fuckers!!

Especially if they stopped first!!!

THEY SHOULD ALL BE ABLE TO READ MY MIND AND BOW DOWN TO ME BECAUSE I AM ALWAYS RIGHT

if you ever drove in Boston, you wouldn't have bothered to state this.

5 star threak.

to TyroneFig, im sure you are generally a cool guy.. but you asking this on here makes me question,

how many times do you just decide to change lanes from an inner to an outer lane (the one where the opposing traffic is making a turn on red)? frequently?

if so, i question, what is your actual purpose in doing that?

i believe you arent making lane changes WITHIN the intersection,

and I believe you arent making lane changes within the 20 feet section before the intersection (where the white lines are solid)

and i believe you are doing it LEGALLY before that area as close as possible where it would still be debatable as to if it is even practically safe when considering there ARE people who make a right on red perhaps reacting slowly thinking you were (assuming) you were going to stay in your lane.

but i say this.. why make that lane change? is there a pothole all of a sudden in your lane? is there a person who braked all of a sudden in front of you?
OR..
is there some compelling reason for you to go out of your way to TEST the opposing unsuspectiing car trying to make a right on red in front of you?

why?
so i ask how old are you? i find older people or just adults will plain just yield and try to prevent situations where it would create any sort of frustration (let alone danger) for others . and later rant on a forum (if you do it so frequently).

younger guys i always find try to test everything out. always try to force an issue. even with older people (who are still capable of driving but may have slighlty less fast reactions compared to you) to see if they can make them stumble and i dont konw, perhaps cause a crash or something? so you guys can prove some point??

i say this.. in driving ..best to just drive safe, sensibly , and even IF you have something in every rights for you to do it, but will cause maybe some kind of potential safety hazard (by what means, maybe they cant react fast or assume something) why go that direction? just yield. it is the best thing for driving. ok? thanks.