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why are there no beautiful female icons?

post #1 of 30
3/13/10 at 5:44pm
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or why don't women idolize other beautiful women? jackie o and princess di were no great beauties. in current media i was browsing for dvd's and saw several jennifer aniston movies. i don't also get why sjp is popular and lauded as a fashion icon. they are horsey and mannish. why don't they idolize megan fox, alessandra ambrosio or something?
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post #2 of 30
3/13/10 at 5:48pm
Cause M Fox may look good but she is a ditz! And A Ambrosio is also bone-able, but she is worried about her elephant ears showing so she had them pinned! Looks does not = substance!
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post #3 of 30
3/13/10 at 5:52pm
Marianne, the symbol of France, is currently modeled on Catherine Deneuve.
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post #4 of 30
3/13/10 at 6:02pm
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Marianne, the symbol of France, is currently modeled on Catherine Deneuve.

Malika Ménard since 2010, they switch it up every couple of years and is hasn't been Deneuve in a while...
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post #5 of 30
3/13/10 at 6:04pm
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Marianne, the symbol of France, is currently modeled on Catherine Deneuve.

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Malika Ménard since 2010, they switch it up every couple of years and is hasn't been Deneuve in a while...

Yeah, since Deneuve it's been Carole Bouquet, Ines de la Fressange and Laetitia Casta.
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post #6 of 30
3/13/10 at 8:39pm
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or why don't women idolize other beautiful women? jackie o and princess di were no great beauties. in current media i was browsing for dvd's and saw several jennifer aniston movies. i don't also get why sjp is popular and lauded as a fashion icon. they are horsey and mannish. why don't they idolize megan fox, alessandra ambrosio or something?
Depends. For instance, many apparently heterosexual girls decorate their MySpace pages with images of attractive but slightly gothy women like Angelina Jolie and Amy Lee, but anyone who hews to close to the bubbly blonde cheerleader archetype is anathema. Of course, the bubbly blonde archetype- the same that gives us the Britney Spearses and the Pamela Andersonians- is at least initially popular popular among red-blooded heterosexuals, but when the hetboys move onto new sparkly novelties, the fandoms of these former sex symbols are then ceded to the homosexualists, who can appreciate them as camp parodies of a heterosexual ideal. For some reason, many girls also seem to idolize Audrey Hepburn, despite they fact they were born after Audrey died, and despite the fact they perhaps have never actually seen any of her movies. Megan Fox apparently idolizes Marilyn Monroe enough to get a big honking tatoo of her. Basically, anything that speaks to an old Hollywood concept of glamour will have a certain cachet, as it seems out-of-place in today's naturalized cinematic language. But yeah, Sarah Jessica Parker is not beautiful, nor is she even average. She is ugly, and any appearance by her in any "most beautiful" list is a disgrace.
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post #7 of 30
3/13/10 at 8:45pm
The Audrey Hepburn thing is really weird.
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post #8 of 30
3/13/10 at 8:56pm
IME women have a very different definition/conception of female beauty than men. Most women I've met, if asked which women they think are attractive, will provide examples no man would cite when asked the same question. This might explain why the women other women idolize don't meet your standards for beauty.
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post #9 of 30
3/13/10 at 9:01pm
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Yeah, since Deneuve it's been Carole Bouquet, Ines de la Fressange and Laetitia Casta.

correct.

ines was great, she still is.
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post #10 of 30
3/13/10 at 9:22pm
This one is easy

"Men are by nature merely indifferent to each other; but women are by nature enemies."

- Arthur Schopenhauer, On Women, Chapter 7, "On the Suffering of the World"
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post #11 of 30
3/13/10 at 9:59pm
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This one is easy

"Men are by nature merely indifferent to each other; but women are by nature enemies."

- Arthur Schopenhauer, On Women, Chapter 7, "On the Suffering of the World"

Or Jonathan Swift: "Two women seldom grow intimate but at the expense of a third."
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post #12 of 30
3/13/10 at 10:00pm
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The Audrey Hepburn thing is really weird.

Perhaps it is the herdmind at work?
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post #13 of 30
3/13/10 at 11:04pm
I know girls who idolize Megan Fox... And Audrey Hepburn is pretty beautiful. Although I agree that a lot of female celebrities are not exceptionally good looking, also, HD has definitely opened up my eyes to the fact that Hollywood is less beautiful than it appears to be.
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post #14 of 30
3/13/10 at 11:15pm
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Cause M Fox may look good but she is a ditz! And A Ambrosio is also bone-able, but she is worried about her elephant ears showing so she had them pinned! Looks does not = substance!

Natalie Portman is an icon. She's beautiful, intelligent and successful. She's trilingual (speaks English, Hebrew and Japanese) and graduated from Harvard.
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post #15 of 30
3/14/10 at 1:41am
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Yeah, since Deneuve it's been Carole Bouquet, Ines de la Fressange and Laetitia Casta.

Interesting. I did not know that.

Obviously.
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