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post #31 of 44
local anesthetics like lidocaine, procaine, bupivacaine, ropivacaine, etc. are not used for this purpose. I've seen bupivacaine (I think) injected as an epidural pre-surgery, but that's about it.

Ultram = tramadol

indomethacin is in the same class as ibuprofen. They are both NSAIDs.

lol @ carfentanil

yeah that's one thing I haven't thought about, mixing the perc with the ibuprofen. That might help.

One thing I forgot was ziconitide. Look it up, it's crazy stuff. Literally.
post #32 of 44
Just smoke a bowl man or get some ecstacy from mafoofan..that'll take your mind off the pain
post #33 of 44
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Originally Posted by Stu View Post
So I am laying here, in intense pain from having a torn abdominal muscle fixed today. Doc has got me all perc'd up. They work pretty well, but is there anything better in that class? He's obviously not going to give oxycon but anything else I should ask for?

Glad your doing alright!
post #34 of 44
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So I am laying here, in intense pain from having a torn abdominal muscle fixed today. Doc has got me all perc'd up. They work pretty well, but is there anything better in that class? He's obviously not going to give oxycon but anything else I should ask for?
I know it hurts like a bitch and a half right now, but take it from a veteran of many, many painful surgeries and assorted hospitalizations: you don't want to mess around with prescription painkillers. Enjoy the percs while you've got 'em, but don't press for more than you need (and don't press for a higher punching weight of analgesic than you need). Not only are most doctors unlikely to play the role of Dr. Feelgood in this day and age, but also, seriously, a dependency or addiction is not worth the fun. Most hardcore painkillers are cut with VERY high levels of acitaminophen these days, too, so watch out. Acitaminophen builds up in your liver and takes a lot longer to flush out than the narcotic components of the drugs. Build up too much and you're on the pain train to Liverdamageville. The percs I was given after my kidney stone surgery, for instance, contained 500mg of acitaminophen per pill. Enough of those in one day, or even over time, will mess your shit up but good.
post #35 of 44
I was taking 8 5mg Percosets a day after my back surgery, tapered down over a couple weeks until I didn't need them anymore. It handled the incision pain just fine, although I was also taking Valium which really helped with the muscle tightness. I think if I had to pick one, I'd have probably gone with the Valium. I had one day of suck when I had to drop the things, but it wasn't too bad. I had a mild dependency after taking Vicodin then Percs for two months, but pretty much no serious withdraw. I was really careful about the whole thing though. Right after the surgery they gave me IV oxymorphone and it was ridiculous, went from severe pain to feelin' great in about a minute flat, then was unconscious in another five minutes. Was getting a morphine drip after that while I recovered. I see the appeal and danger of IV opiate drugs now, and I was in pain so it wasn't like I was getting high. I wouldn't touch a recreational opiate for anything these days, I was mentally fixated on the morphine for weeks after the surgery, and that was while I was still taking the Percs. The addition potential is just massive, especially for IV stuff.
post #36 of 44
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I wouldn't touch a recreational opiate for anything these days, I was mentally fixated on the morphine for weeks after the surgery, and that was while I was still taking the Percs. The addition potential is just massive, especially for IV stuff.

+100

Morphine drip is one hell of a drug. I've never felt so good and euphoric in my entire life as I did the first time I was ever given morphine in an emergency room. That thought frightens me. Hardcore opiates are not to be trifled with.
post #37 of 44
you can also get a morphine patch (its like those nicotine patches but it administers morphine)...good times!
post #38 of 44
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+100

Morphine drip is one hell of a drug. I've never felt so good and euphoric in my entire life as I did the first time I was ever given morphine in an emergency room. That thought frightens me. Hardcore opiates are not to be trifled with.

And imagine, they're so much more intense when you're not in pain. I'm told it's impossible to truly become addicted when you're in pain, since you don't really get the same kind of high. You can get euphoria, but it's not the same apparently. Just removing the pain was a sort of euphoria for me, I'd say.

The oxymorphone (something like 80x more powerful than morphine) was just mind blowing, and that was after just waking up from having someone playing with my spinal cord for four hours. Can't imagine what it (or heroin, etc) would be like for someone not in pain.
post #39 of 44
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post
And imagine, they're so much more intense when you're not in pain. I'm told it's impossible to truly become addicted when you're in pain, since you don't really get the same kind of high. You can get euphoria, but it's not the same apparently. Just removing the pain was a sort of euphoria for me, I'd say. The oxymorphone (something like 80x more powerful than morphine) was just mind blowing, and that was after just waking up from having someone playing with my spinal cord for four hours. Can't imagine what it (or heroin, etc) would be like for someone not in pain.
Using heroin is typically described by ex-addicts as a feeling of total and complete euphoria and an almost otherworldly warmth and comfort (you'll notice lesser, but still powerful shades of this "warmth" on morphine or oxycodone, for instance, and I'm sure you felt it on the oxymorphone). Not surprisingly, the first time shooting heroin produces the best feeling imaginable -- followed by a hard crash, and the insatiable need to recapture the high. "Chasing the dragon," as it used to be known, is the frustrating and self-destructive addiction process with heroin. You're trying to relive the magic, but you can never quite catch up to it, and sooner or later you find yourself shooting higher and more frequent doses just to keep from being miserable. Again, this concept is heightened with heroin but is by no means limited to heroin. In theory, any and all opiates can produce the same sort of addiction. Hence, my serious and repeated warnings to folks on this thread not to f- around with this stuff. Neither nature nor man has invented a more perfect trap.
post #40 of 44
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Originally Posted by Arrogant Bastard View Post
+100

Morphine drip is one hell of a drug. I've never felt so good and euphoric in my entire life as I did the first time I was ever given morphine in an emergency room. That thought frightens me. Hardcore opiates are not to be trifled with.

+1000. No worries at all.
post #41 of 44
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Originally Posted by Arrogant Bastard View Post
+100

Morphine drip is one hell of a drug. I've never felt so good and euphoric in my entire life as I did the first time I was ever given morphine in an emergency room. That thought frightens me. Hardcore opiates are not to be trifled with.

Indeed, I never got much from painkillers but the morphines really did a number on me. I remember that night thinking it was just going to take the edge off my back, and instead made me look like the living dead as I was walking to a bar.
post #42 of 44
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Glad your doing alright!

Well, as soon as I came to in the recovery room I checked out the surgeon's shoes and much to my chagrin he was wearing Rockports. I gave him hell about it, told him I expected him to cut me wearing the Aldens. He said he didn't want to get any blood on them and always operates with beater shoes.
post #43 of 44
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Well, as soon as I came to in the recovery room I checked out the surgeon's shoes and much to my chagrin he was wearing Rockports. I gave him hell about it, told him I expected him to cut me wearing the Aldens. He said he didn't want to get any blood on them and always operates with beater shoes.

I get blood on my C&J's all the time, whats he whining about?

LOL, Drink soon!
post #44 of 44
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