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Cagney, O'Brien, Bogart, Sheridan, my favourite director, best use of the Dead End Kids (precursor to The Bowery Boys) and possibly one of the greatest gut-punching, self-sacrifcing film endings ever.

lefty

noted. will look up on netfix!
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Originally Posted by lefty View Post

Cagney, O'Brien, Bogart, Sheridan, my favourite director, best use of the Dead End Kids (precursor to The Bowery Boys) and possibly one of the greatest gut-punching, self-sacrifcing film endings ever.

lefty

Also an album by Tricky.
post #2568 of 2874
Jesse needs to be killed. He's a traitor. And he stole Heidenberg life's work.
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Well that's not very well written now is it.shog[1].gif
post #2571 of 2874
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

Jesse needs to be killed. He's a traitor. And he stole Heidenberg life's work.

 

The show gains nothing from killing Jesse. Not that it matters to the producers, but it would be the least satisfying ending for the audience. Though he's done horrible things, Jesse is still a decent guy and has the possibility of redemption.

 
Walter is already dead from the cancer (even though he did look pretty peppy in the flashback) and there's no going back for him. How/when he dies is what's at issue.
 
Them dieing together ala Butch and Sundance (look it up, Stitch) would be the shittiest ending possible.
 
lefty 
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

Jesse needs to be killed. He's a traitor. And he stole Heidenberg life's work.

lol no way. horrible ending. i think once someone put a hit on you its fair game to steal their already illegal recipe while under threat of death.

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lefty - started that once, did not finish. working on it.
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Jesse needs to be killed. He's a traitor. And he stole Heidenberg life's work.

he stole it? "Heisenberg" wouldn't have gotten very far without Jesse's help. Also, I would think "Heisenberg" has been a traitor to Jesse a few times...
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I would think the worst thing for Jesse would be to survive this whole thing. I mean after Todd shot Andrea, what's left of him? Even if he miraculously takes Brock, or manages to support him from afar, how much of Jesse's humanity is actually left. If you are rooting for Jesse, I'd think you'd hope for some revenge and then a quick death.

 

 

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Originally Posted by John Doe View Post

Walt had given up and was just waiting at the bar for the police to come get him until he saw the Blacks on Charlie Rose. It just renewed all the resentment he has towards them about how he feels he was mistreated by them. It stirred up the Heisenberg in him so now he is going unleash his righteous anger on the Nazis like he wanted to do, and who knows, maybe even the Blacks.

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The death of either of the Schwartzes would seem very, very strange to me. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even make an appearance in the final episode.

I think the purpose of their appearance was as the plot driver to bring the Heisenberg back out of Walt. He was about to turn himself in to please his family, but his relentless pride kicks in in the nick of time.

I'm starting to see that as the prominent theme of the show: Walt will do anything for this family, but he'll also do anything for his pride. It's a toss-up which one wins out in any given occasion.


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Originally Posted by DLJr View Post

I would think the worst thing for Jesse would be to survive this whole thing. I mean after Todd shot Andrea, what's left of him? Even if he miraculously takes Brock, or manages to support him from afar, how much of Jesse's humanity is actually left. If you are rooting for Jesse, I'd think you'd hope for some revenge and then a quick death.


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I think there were two key things with the blacks interview -

1. they were saying how little he had to do with the company and their success - his identity, pre-meth, was tied up in the work he had done at gray matter. that really pissed him off

2. he heard that the blue meth was still appearing across the south west and Europe which means Jessie is still around and working with todd and Lydia.
post #2576 of 2874
Seems to me that any meaningful revenge against the Schwartzes would involve tanking their stock price rather than killing them.
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Originally Posted by DLJr View Post

I would think the worst thing for Jesse would be to survive this whole thing. I mean after Todd shot Andrea, what's left of him? Even if he miraculously takes Brock, or manages to support him from afar, how much of Jesse's humanity is actually left. If you are rooting for Jesse, I'd think you'd hope for some revenge and then a quick death.

Despite everything that has happened between Walt and Jesse in the last two episodes I can foresee them teaming up again to exact sweet sweet revenge. Think about it, Walt had given up until he saw the Charlie Rose interview. That enraged him and now he wants to go ape shit on either the Nazis, the Schwartzes, or both. Jesse had given up when he was caught trying to escape. After Todd killed Andrea in front of him I would bet that now his raison d'être is to kill Todd and the Nazis. I don't see Jesse folding up after Andreas murder. I think Walt will free Jesse and then it will be Nazi killing time! Jesses other motivation is Brock.

In addition the show has always been about the partnership of Walt and Jesse and how much they have done for each other and looked out for each other. I think ending the show with bad blood between them would leave a bad taste in everyones mouth. When Walt turned over Jesse and the Nazis were dragging him off it seemed to me like Walt regretted what he had done by his facial expression (great acting on Cranston's part). It seems now that their bond is irrevocably broken so the surprise plot twist would be to have them reconcile against one mutual enemy one last time. In the end Walt will do right by his partner, they've been through too much together not to.
Edited by John Doe - 9/25/13 at 4:55pm
post #2578 of 2874
I'm not saying Jesse folds up and can't exact revenge in the short term of a final episode, I'm saying he won't be able to live with himself long term (he'll blame himself for Andrea too, he has never been able to justify and live with his actions like Walt). In my mind, the worst future for Jesse is a future. Just my personal point of view, I'm sure many others will feel differently.
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^ You may be right, his history shows he has a hard time coping morally with the things he has done.
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After the Jane reveal and Walt explicitly telling the Nazis to kill Jesse, I don't think the pair will be teaming up again.

 

Who Walt is gunning for is still in doubt. The Schwartzes after they threw him under the bus? The Nazis for killing Hank? Jesse for continuing to make blue meth? Still a lot of angles the show could explore.

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