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post #1666 of 1812
9/4/12 at 5:37am
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post #1667 of 1812
9/4/12 at 6:43am
My opinion, Hank has earned walt's respect, enough so that Walt won't kill him as an out. Mike never had Walt's respect, nor did Gus. Hank knows, but has difficulty in pursuing it since he will have trouble selling the idea to his colleagues and obtaining funding for the pursuit. Walt in sensing that will find another way to shove it in his face.

Walt has seemingly little interest in the money itself, he will remain in the game. Secretly he continues to want acknowledgement for his success in this field, even if it destroys him in the end. He prefers being ousted as a secret drug lord to dying as a middle class nobody.
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post #1668 of 1812
9/4/12 at 6:48am
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It's not going to be that simple at all. Those boys he made a deal with last episode (they weren't cartel) aren't going to just let him walk away. The reason they didn't just kill him is because he promised to deliver a high yield product that they could sell to a larger market that would result in them making more money than they were making before. They depend on regular shipments to keep their business going. Walt can't just turn off supply without pissing them off in the same way Gus couldn't stop production of his 200lbs a week.

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+1. Cooking meth isn't a business you just "retire" from.

Are you guys forgetting that that crew know all about Walter's limited precursor supply? Unless they started supplying him with ingredients themselves, they had to know it was a limited run.
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post #1669 of 1812
9/4/12 at 7:16am
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My opinion, Hank has earned walt's respect, enough so that Walt won't kill him as an out. Mike never had Walt's respect, nor did Gus. Hank knows, but has difficulty in pursuing it since he will have trouble selling the idea to his colleagues and obtaining funding for the pursuit. Walt in sensing that will find another way to shove it in his face.
Walt has seemingly little interest in the money itself, he will remain in the game. Secretly he continues to want acknowledgement for his success in this field, even if it destroys him in the end. He prefers being ousted as a secret drug lord to dying as a middle class nobody.

Did you guys notice Walt's face when Hank says "Who am I to fly in the face of customer demand?" That couldn't have been a coincidental choice of wording by the writers.
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post #1670 of 1812
9/4/12 at 7:18am
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Also, Walt could get out because Todd (probably) learned how to cook, thus serving as his replacement. Even if he wasn't quite as good as Walt, it'd probably be better thaan anything else.
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post #1671 of 1812
9/4/12 at 7:18am
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Also, Walt could get out because Todd (probably) learned how to cook, thus serving as his replacement. Even if he wasn't quite as good as Walt, it'd probably be better thaan anything else.
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post #1672 of 1812
9/4/12 at 7:42am
Couple of thoughts about this week:
  • How much time elapsed between when Walt offed all of Mike's guys and he went "out?" Marie said something about the kids being with her and Hank for three months, so I am guessing like two months of cooking? Also, how long after Walt quit cooking and the time around the pool with Hank and Marie? I'd have to rewatch it, but I seem to remember the baby seeming much older than when they showed her in the previous scenes.
  • Re: Walt getting out of the business. I would agree that it seemed pretty sloppy for him to just be able to say "I'm out." But perhaps handing over what was left of the methylamine (if any) and knowing that their competition was out of business was enough for Declan and the Phoenix crew.
  • How could they have waited this long to use "Crystal Blue Persuasion"? What a perfect song for BB.
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post #1673 of 1812
9/4/12 at 7:47am
The guy blogging on Grantland has suggested that the use of "Crystal Blue" is a sign that we won't see Walt cook again just because it is the perfect song.
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post #1674 of 1812
9/4/12 at 7:54am
I'm just going to go on record and say I was disappointed in the last episode for the year.
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post #1675 of 1812
9/4/12 at 7:55am
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The guy blogging on Grantland has suggested that the use of "Crystal Blue" is a sign that we won't see Walt cook again just because it is the perfect song.

I don't expect to see him cooking either. Seeing that pile of money that Skylar amassed in the storage unit was what it took to get it through his thick skull that there was no possible reason to continue cooking.

Last 8 episodes will all be Hank vs. Walt, with Walt going on the run when he realizes that Hank is on to him.
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post #1676 of 1812
9/4/12 at 7:58am
Favorite quote of the night: "It can be done exactly the way I want it. The question is, are you the man to do it?"

I don't think Walt will have to worry about the Phoenix crew or any remnants of the cartel. My guess as to the source of conflict for most of next season: The Aryan Nation. They know that Todd knows exactly who this guy is and what he capable of from a production standpoint. They are going to want in and will pursue it by any means necessary.
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post #1677 of 1812
9/4/12 at 7:59am
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Also, Walt could get out because Todd (probably) learned how to cook, thus serving as his replacement. Even if he wasn't quite as good as Walt, it'd probably be better thaan anything else.

Todd seems too limited in his abilities to cook himself. Unlike Jessie who started out as a cook, although not a very good one.
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post #1678 of 1812
9/4/12 at 7:59am
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I'm just going to go on record and say I was disappointed in the last episode for the year.

Really? I thought it was masterful. everything a season finale should be.
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post #1679 of 1812
9/4/12 at 8:31am
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Are you guys forgetting that that crew know all about Walter's limited precursor supply? Unless they started supplying him with ingredients themselves, they had to know it was a limited run.

Valid point. Their original negociations did limit themselves to the production from the original store. However, they had a ton of the stuff (literally). They might very likely assume he could get more when he wants and expect production to continue, especially if they shut down their own production. Drug dealers aren't exactly known for being flexible.
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post #1680 of 1812
9/4/12 at 9:58am
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Originally Posted by GQgeek View Post

It's not going to be that simple at all. Those boys he made a deal with last episode (they weren't cartel) aren't going to just let him walk away. The reason they didn't just kill him is because he promised to deliver a high yield product that they could sell to a larger market that would result in them making more money than they were making before. They depend on regular shipments to keep their business going. Walt can't just turn off supply without pissing them off in the same way Gus couldn't stop production of his 200lbs a week.
They only know Walt as Heisenberg, but they know Pinkman by name. They will get Pinkman, and torture Pinkman until he gives up Walt's real identity, and then either kill Pinkman or make him cook (since walt already vouched for his skills). Hank is the least of Walt's problems imo.
Not sure if the young blonde dude knows walt by name but he's seen walt drive up in his real car so he could easily know his real identity as well. He probably wouldn't be too happy with Walt's retirement either since he's just starting out and seeing more money than he'd ever dreamed of.
Almost anything could happen next season.

I think they knew it was a limited run. Walt used it all.

The kid, after all those batches, must know how to do it by now. I think he'd be willing.

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My opinion, Hank has earned walt's respect, enough so that Walt won't kill him as an out. Mike never had Walt's respect, nor did Gus. Hank knows, but has difficulty in pursuing it since he will have trouble selling the idea to his colleagues and obtaining funding for the pursuit. Walt in sensing that will find another way to shove it in his face.
Walt has seemingly little interest in the money itself, he will remain in the game. Secretly he continues to want acknowledgement for his success in this field, even if it destroys him in the end. He prefers being ousted as a secret drug lord to dying as a middle class nobody.

I dont agree. I think Walt really is out, but he wont get away from Hank. I do believe Hank will investigate him secretly, and Walt will off him to protect the family in the end, then get cancer.

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Also, Walt could get out because Todd (probably) learned how to cook, thus serving as his replacement. Even if he wasn't quite as good as Walt, it'd probably be better thaan anything else.

Todd may be offered. I dont think it matters, I dont believe those guys will come back into it.

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Valid point. Their original negociations did limit themselves to the production from the original store. However, they had a ton of the stuff (literally). They might very likely assume he could get more when he wants and expect production to continue, especially if they shut down their own production. Drug dealers aren't exactly known for being flexible.


it was 1000 gallons. How many gallons does a batch need? 20, 30, 50? There was a real limit there.
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