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post #16 of 33
Like I said, 1 pair of shoes, 2 pair of boots. The oxfords were the cardiff model, which I ordered in chestnut antique, single leather sole. I was charged $695. I then ordered a pair of banbury boots, in dark oak antique, single leather sole. I was charged $695.00. I have on order a pair of halifax boots, in walnut country calf, double dainite sole. I will be charged $695.00. The cardiffs were ordered over 2 years ago, this last pair, the halifax, will be ready this april. Thats no price increase in over 2 years time. just my own experience.
post #17 of 33
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In addition, the shoe that I ordered is not in the present EG catalogue
jcusey: Care to elaborate? It's highly unlikely that I order anything out of the ordinary for my first pair but I'm curious to know what other options I may have. I'm mainly interested in the Halifax pretty much the way it's depicted in the catalog, though bengal-stripes's special order Halifax in a previous topic sounded very nice. Regarding the Halifax boot, I received this a while back in an email from EG:
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The Halifax boot is the most expensive boot we produce because of the hand sewn apron. Each boot is sewn by hand using a pigs bristle twisted onto a hand rolled and waxed thread. To sew the apron alone on one pair of boots takes in excess of two hours.
Anyone know what the apron of a boot is?
post #18 of 33
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Like I said, 1 pair of shoes, 2 pair of boots. The oxfords were the cardiff model, which I ordered in chestnut antique, single leather sole. I was charged $695. I then ordered a pair of banbury boots, in dark oak antique, single leather sole. I was charged $695.00. I have on order a pair of halifax boots, in walnut country calf, double dainite sole. I will be charged $695.00. The cardiffs were ordered over 2 years ago, this last pair, the halifax, will be ready this april. Thats no price increase in over 2 years time. just my own experience.
Phil, A few weeks ago during the topic regarding Jay Kos and their pricing of EG shoes, I called Richards and received a verbal estimate of about $800-900 for the Halifax boot which they don't stock. I am extremely envious that you managed to get your Halifax at such a bargain, since it retails for £575 including tax in the UK. This translates to £490 without tax and to app. $900 with current exchange rates. Add shipping/customs and you'll be hitting the $1000 mark. You certainly got yourself a good deal.
post #19 of 33
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Anyone know what the apron of a boot is?
The apron (or lake) is the triangular piece covering the vamp, a distinctive feature in every Norwegian style shoe. Edward Greens "Halifax" and "Dover" shoes have four main pieces: The two sides, running from the toe to the heel cap, apron and heal cap. The seam closing the (split) toe and the seam running around the apron are hand stitched with a pigs bristle. Edward Green uses this hand-stitched apron on a number of models: the monk strap "Yardley" and the loafer "Harrow", these models have a premium of, maybe, GBP 25.00. At present "Halifax" is not in stock at the EG shop and only made to special order. I paid last week GBP 525.00 (that includes 17.5% tax), as export, without tax, it would clock in at just under GBP 450.00.
post #20 of 33
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jcusey: Care to elaborate? It's highly unlikely that I order anything out of the ordinary for my first pair but I'm curious to know what other options I may have. I'm mainly interested in the Halifax pretty much the way it's depicted in the catalog, though bengal-stripes's special order Halifax in a previous topic sounded very nice.
The model name is Stowe. It was produced two or three years ago for Ralph Lauren Purple Label and called Wakely by them. A Harris mentioned it in a post here, and he posted this picture: I ordered it on the 808 last with narrowly-cut soles and a double row of brass brads at the toe of the sole.
post #21 of 33
Jcusey - To be perfectly honest, when I ordered my first special order pair (the cardiffs), I was expecting an upcharge. I was pleasantly suprised when they arrived with a 695 pricetag. Subsequently, upon ordering the banburys, I certainly expected a price higher than 695, considering the extra material involved in making boots. I went to Richards to pick them up, and once again, pleasantly surpised at the 695 pricetag ( the only downside of the banbury boots was that it took 17 weeks to get them, instead of the 12 weeks that I was expecting). I ordered the halifaxes on Jan. 22, with a double dainite sole, in walnut country calf. The lady who I work with there told me they would be 695. Perhaps she was mistaken, or assumed since the other pairs i ordered were 695, that these would be too? I guess I will find out soon enough. On a side note, is the hand sewn apron on the Halifaxes similar to the apron on the dover? If it is, I assume the boots will be 750, which is what I paid for a pair of Dover's at Richards last year. I guess the moral of the story is that the price of Edward Green's really vary. But one thing is for sure, dont buy them at Jay Kos, unless you have money to burn.
post #22 of 33
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bengal-stripe: Thank you for your explanation and pricing information. It'll serve me well in figuring out if I get a good deal or not. jcusey: I remember that pic from reading through past topics. Very nice looking shoes indeed.
post #23 of 33
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$1,280 for the Halifax after "discount".  This includes shoe-trees. I walked out of course. On the plus side, it was good to see their shoes in person - and they even have someone sitting in the window handsewing the apron with pig-bristles. Thank you all for your pricing information which made sure that I didn't waste my money.
post #24 of 33
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$1,280 for the Halifax after "discount". This includes shoe-trees. I walked out of course. On the plus side, it was good to see their shoes in person - and they even have someone sitting in the window handsewing the apron with pig-bristles.
Well, someone has got to pay to fly the guy over from Britain to sit in the window stitching the shoe, and that someone is he who pays more than 30% above retail elsewhere for his Halifax boots on sale. Did you get any pictures or see any other interesting styles?
post #25 of 33
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$1,280 for the Halifax after "discount". This includes shoe-trees. I walked out of course. On the plus side, it was good to see their shoes in person - and they even have someone sitting in the window handsewing the apron with pig-bristles.
Well, someone has got to pay to fly the guy over from Britain to sit in the window stitching the shoe, and that someone is he who pays more than 30% above retail elsewhere for his Halifax boots on sale. Did you get any pictures or see any other interesting styles?
I don't know the line well enough to recognize new or unusual models/colors. And I didn't think to bring a camera. I was impressed by the elegance of their shoes and I had never seen Norwegian welting look so refined. I saw a stunning Dover in Brandy Country calf - a color that I don't recall seeing before.
post #26 of 33
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jcusey: I ordered it on the 808 last with narrowly-cut soles and a double row of brass brads at the toe of the sole.
I thought RTW special order from EG was limited to color, skin, last, size, and sole thickness. I was not aware one can order narrow-cut soles and nails under the toe. This is great. Is there a surcharge for these, on top of special order price? Do you know if steel toes are also offered? Any other options for EG RTW special order? Thanks.
post #27 of 33
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I thought RTW special order from EG was limited to color, skin, last, size, and sole thickness. I was not aware one can order narrow-cut soles and nails under the toe. This is great. Is there a surcharge for these, on top of special order price? Do you know if steel toes are also offered? Any other options for EG RTW special order?
If I recall correctly, bengal-stripe mentioned that his special order Halifax boots had the steel tip on the sole, and I've certainly seen pictures of EG shoes with that feature. I don't know everything that they'll let you do, but I do know that you can order shoes with all-leather heels with rows of brass brads where the rubber dovetail usually is and brass brads closely spaced all around the heel. Additionally, you can specify the width of the sole extension, and I imagine that you could also get them to do a reverse welt if you wanted it. I've even seen pictures of special orders with toe caps put on or taken off: the Stowe model that I ordered, for example, could be done with either a straight cap or a wing-tip cap. I get the idea that EG is very flexible, although I would imagine that the more the shoe you want differs from the way that it's normally produced, the more you'll pay.
post #28 of 33
Within reason (and within their production capabilities) Edward Green will make what you ask for at no additional costs. I specified my "Halifax" with a steel toe plate and a combination heel with lots and lots of nails (as currently used for RLPL). I could have asked for a storm (split-reverse) welt or for a full length "sock" to line the insole. But, had I wanted Tod-style leather soles with rubber studs, or have the upper embellished with brouging all over, they would have refused: in the first case they are not set up to produce that sole, in the second case it would be based on matters of good taste. I suppose they don't want to confuse their customers and offer lots of choices ("I'll have to think about that"). If you like a particular design feature to be incorporated, just ask. They only can refuse. Edward Green has been in the business for more than a hundred years and they have far more designs in their archive than in their catalogue. Edward Green, as rather a small company, can be more flexible than other big factories. Equally they do encourage special orders, while others do them, if at all, only grudgingly and at a high premium.
post #29 of 33
Anybody going to the one today at Leffot? I about in about 20 minutes. Booya.
post #30 of 33
i might head over there after work today
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