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post #91 of 149
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Allen Edmonds -- what was called "benchmade" (although I'm suspicious)
Do they still make these shoes?
No idea.
post #92 of 149
Mind if I ask the model name of your AE shoes, btw? Do you know when they were made?
post #93 of 149
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Mind if I ask the model name of your AE shoes, btw? Do you know when were they made?
Fortuitous that I have them sitting next to me, but not very helpful. Probably 15 years old, the soles have been replaced so there's nothing there, the insides have had most printing rubbed off and all I see is the "ADE" in the "BENCH MADE" label that was stamped into the footbed. Sorry. Have held up decently well though.
post #94 of 149
Oh, I see. Do you think the quality of your shoes is significantly better than the typical AE laced-up oxfords nowadays?
post #95 of 149
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Oh, I see. Do you think the quality of your shoes is significantly better than the typical AE laced-up oxfords nowadays?
Haven't really looked at AE since I bought them, but I sort of doubt it. They were the supposed upper end of AE when I bought them, but I doubt they were that top notch. That's why I was suspicious of the "Bench Made" label and figured it was a marketing ploy, like "Olde Tyme Shoppe."
post #96 of 149
Saw some shoes by Audrey Santoni (marketed by Santoni) recently, anyone tried? Price range about US$400+, goodyear welt, Italian leather polished to a shine, one model even in Kangaroo skin. Also, anyone saw the new Zegna Napoli Couture shoes? Maybe because I was told about their venture with Ferragamo some time ago, I really think the shoes have a Ferragamo look, though supposedly hand welted (or so they said).
post #97 of 149
mr. naturlaut, welcome back.
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one model even in Kangaroo skin.
kangaroo leather is commonly used for "high end" soccer cleats. it is supposedly more water repellent and keeps its original shape without stretching. it is not as soft as calfskin, and i wouldn't think to use it for a dress shoe, but perhapes it can be treated and polished differently depending on the application.
post #98 of 149
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Originally posted by naturlaut: Saw some shoes by Audrey Santoni (marketed by Santoni) recently, anyone tried? Price range about US$400+, goodyear welt, Italian leather polished to a shine .....
Santoni shoes (in my opinion) are excellent shoes, but make sure that you buy the handmade ones. You can usually tell by looking at the way the brand is written inside the shoe. In the better quality Santonis, Andrea Santoni is written is script going around the heel of the shoe, these are usually from the "handmade fatte a mano" line, or their classics line. I would not waste my money on their other shoes which have the brand written horizontally.
post #99 of 149
Kangaroo is supposed to be the toughest leather for its weight. It is, however, rather thin and I wouldn't recommend it for cold climates (though this depends upon the lining used) or for anyone who doesn't like creased shoes.
post #100 of 149
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Originally posted by naturlaut: Saw some shoes by Audrey Santoni (marketed by Santoni) recently, anyone tried?  Price range about US$400+, goodyear welt, Italian leather polished to a shine .....
Santoni shoes (in my opinion) are excellent shoes, but make sure that you buy the handmade ones.  You can usually tell by looking at the way the brand is written inside the shoe.  In the better quality Santonis, Andrea Santoni is written is script going around the heel of the shoe, these are usually from the "handmade fatte a mano" line, or their classics line.  I would not waste my money on their other shoes which have the brand written horizontally.
Please pardon my ignorance ... I think you are right about Andrea (not audrey) --- yes, it was written in script and I only had once quick glance at the interior. It also says fatte a mano. There's a Santoni store in New York, but strangely I have only been in there two or three times. Now that I am miles away I wished I'd paid more visits to that store.
post #101 of 149
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Originally posted by Naturlaut: Please pardon my ignorance ... I think you are right about Andrea (not audrey) --- yes, it was written in script and I only had once quick glance at the interior. It also says fatte a mano.
No need to be sorry about that, I also have the same problem, because the script is written in such a way that it looks like Audrey.. The important thing is that the name is written following the curvature of the heel, and not straight across. Another differentiation between the upper echelons of Santoni is the "sock" (part of the insole where the brand is written on). Sometimes it is in orange leather with a smooth edge, this is usually found in the mid to lower tier of their classics (here in Europe anyway), while the others are in natural colour leather with sawtooth edges.
post #102 of 149
I am thinking about getting one, as sales season is approaching. How much are they in Europe? In New York, the top end of Santoni are 4-digits, while the others at around $4-- to $5--. Those I was looking at are the mid-level range. Should have tried them on that day.
post #103 of 149
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marc, look inside yourself and search for that person who cares deeply about the plight of those less fortunate than you. you are spending money on things you don't need--money that could be put to much greater use elsewhere. if you respond that you give half your income to charity, i say that you can obviously afford to give more. i see nothing wrong with spending $1000 on shoes, as many people have a great appreciation for quality and as ghandi once said, "it is man's right to aspire to perfection." i take this to mean materially, as well as spiritually.
Oh my.... seeing little arguments like this on this board suddenly reminds me of someone .......... (dare I say Josh?) -- not that I am suspecting they are the same person, but just the way both of them sounded ....... Call me strange, but I kinda miss Josh ....
post #104 of 149
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Originally posted by Naturlaut: ... How much are they in Europe?...
I just checked the santonishoesusa.com website and the eqivalent of the classic collection costs about Euro 200 to 300, while the top end "handmade collection" ranges from Euro 400 to 800. The sales have started up here, and I have seen some Santoni handmades for Euro 360, while some Mantellassis cost Euro 350.
post #105 of 149
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Call me strange, but I kinda miss Josh ....
Yes, I miss Josh as well. He actually contributed to another forum and it has never been the same since. Josh always reminded me of the character of "Mrs Merton" on British television. It is a young woman, dressed up as a little, somewhat dotty and naive old lady who interviews people and asks them embarrassing questions (apparently not understanding the double meaning). Most celebrated example (I now give an American version, as the English names are likely to be unknown): "Now tell me, Anna Nicole Smith, what was the first thing that made you fall in love with the millionaire J. Howard Marshall II?"
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