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post #76 of 149
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Church bookbinder
Isn't corrected grain (English: "bookbinder", American "cobbler") a nasty material? I have three pairs of plasticized Church shoes at the back of my wardrobe (bought at a time when I didn't know any better). Yes, I hang my head in shame.
post #77 of 149
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Originally posted by Bengal-Stripe: Isn't corrected grain (English: "bookbinder", American "cobbler") a nasty material?
Yes. I bought them in 1993 when I got my B.S and needed a pair of black dress shoes. Those were my first ever pair of "nice" shoes. They did the job, and I am not ashamed of them. At the time, I thought they were most excellent.. Although now I know better. Those are my only Church's.
post #78 of 149
T4, what about the heschung boots? what don't you like about them?
post #79 of 149
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Originally posted by Matadorpoeta: what about the heschung boots? what don't you like about them?
1) Not very comfortable when going for a moderate walk "off road". 2) Difficult to clean, and when they are clean, the "nap" of the aquabuck is easily marked. 3) Not waterproof, although the boot claimed to be "impermeable".
post #80 of 149
My pathetic collection: One pair of C&J handgrade (brown Ladbroke) One pair of Church's Custom grade (black wingtip) One pair of Ferragamo loafers (studio line) One pair of Ferragamo patent leather (studio as well) One pair of Certo (brown monkstrap) One pair of Converse AI (the Answer..the very first one) The Ferragamo's I got in Italy for a grand total of 75 bucks. The C&J from a Barney's warehouse sale for 100 bucks. The others on ebay from 30-100 bucks.
post #81 of 149
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My pathetic collection: One pair of C&J handgrade (brown Ladbroke) One pair of Church's Custom grade (black wingtip) One pair of Ferragamo loafers (studio line) One pair of Ferragamo patent leather (studio as well) One pair of Certo (brown monkstrap) One pair of Converse AI (the Answer..the very first one)  The Ferragamo's I got in Italy for a grand total of 75 bucks. The C&J from a Barney's warehouse sale for 100 bucks.  The others on ebay from 30-100 bucks.
there's nothing pathetic about your shoes, with the exception of those lame iverson's. you can wear them when you watch my lakers obliterate the rest of the league.
post #82 of 149
Not much here, really... 1 pair Ferragamo Signature Loafers 1 pair Johnston & Murphy lace-ups 1 pair Prada Sport trainers 1 pair Donald Pliner loafers 1 pair Kenneth Cole boots 2 or 3 few pairs of Nike running shoes But I'm working on adding to my collection now that my employment status has changed.
post #83 of 149
Yeah, so am I. I'm planning on picking up a pair of Grensons or maybe some R. M. Williams chelsea boots. Much to my regret, I am unable to afford such marvels of footwear such as Vass or Lobbs, and probably won't be until I'm able to plan a bank robbery.
post #84 of 149
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My pathetic collection: One pair of C&J handgrade (brown Ladbroke) One pair of Church's Custom grade (black wingtip) One pair of Ferragamo loafers (studio line) One pair of Ferragamo patent leather (studio as well) One pair of Certo (brown monkstrap) One pair of Converse AI (the Answer..the very first one)  The Ferragamo's I got in Italy for a grand total of 75 bucks. The C&J from a Barney's warehouse sale for 100 bucks.  The others on ebay from 30-100 bucks.
there's nothing pathetic about your shoes, with the exception of those lame iverson's. you can wear them when you watch my lakers obliterate the rest of the league.
YOUR Lakers, huh? They've become the Yankees of the NBA, which only raises my hatred of them. That being said, having four HOF players on the court at one time is pretty amazing. It just shows how pathetic the East is, when Philly is leading the Atlantic division with barely over a .500 record.
post #85 of 149
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Church bookbinder
Isn't corrected grain (English: "bookbinder", American "cobbler") a nasty material? I have three pairs of plasticized Church shoes at the back of my wardrobe (bought at a time when I didn't know any better). Yes, I hang my head in shame.
Bengal-Stripe, you got me to thinking about this fact, so I pulled out my Churchs, and it is bookbinder, but also Custom Grade.  Did they use corrected grain in their top of the line?  Also, when I look up close, I can see faint pore-marks.
post #86 of 149
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Did they use corrected grain in their top of the line?
Church's has always used corrected grain extensively. In their current catalogue ¾ of the models are available in corrected grain (or "bookbinder" in Church-speak). The London stores offer maybe 2/3 of their entire stock in corrected grain only. (Although that might vary internationally, depending on the buyer's preference and the preference of their clientele.) It seams to be the case that corrected grain shoes sell very well. For people who don't know a great deal about leather and shoes, they seem to represent superior quality. ("Always shiny"). Church's are by far the best known manufacturer of English shoes, and most people, just like you and me, when they graduate to "good" shoes will cut their teeth with Church's. Once you advance on the shoe ladder, you tend to despise Church's shoes (and corrected grain).
post #87 of 149
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Originally posted by Bengal-Stripe: ..........and most people, just like you and me, when they graduate to "good" shoes will cut their teeth with Church's. Once you advance on the shoe ladder, you tend to despise Church's shoes (and corrected grain).
Thanks for the reply. As you said, when people initially start looking for "nice" shoes, Church's is one of the firms you look at. Strangely enough, I remember that the Church's was not my first choice, Alden's cordovan was. The problem was that the shoe did not fit, too narrow (even E width). So, I just walked a few minutes (this was in San Francisco) to the Churchs store. I remember that they cost me about $500.
post #88 of 149
There is of course more to shoes than the leather. I bought my church's after having tried on C&J and Edward Greens. The C&Js were too pointy-toed for my liking and the EGs really looked way too affected on my foot. Then again mine were in suede so I did not commit the sin anyway. My shoe closet is not very prestigious but getting there: 1 pr Church Chetwynd brown suede 1 pr Tod's boots in suede 1 pr Fratelli Rossetti loafers 1 pr Goodyear welted Lloyd shoes in corrected grain 1 pr Bass suede with rubber soles 1 pr black lace up boots from Sand (Italian made it seems) assortment of sneakers, casuals and semi-hiking boots B
post #89 of 149
Since everyone else is chiming in... More formal business shoes: E. Green M-T-M, Lidfort black apron toe, Allen Edmonds -- what was called "benchmade" (although I'm suspicious), Paraboot apron toe, Vass from Andrew on the way (unless he's absconded with our deposits with his Hungarian buddies and is now lounging in Bahia). For the other Vass buyers, I chose the medallion toe in aged cognac. Ankle boots: Harris black cordovan, Bettanin & Venturi black calfskin, Lidfort cordovan colored calfskin. Loafers: 2 pair Prada, 1 pair cognac Harris, 1 pair brown suede Helmut Lang. As a personal aside, I feel that buying loafers from designers is a nice way to retain some semblance of looking under 50 below the knee as I find most higher end loafers to be stodgy-looking. Chelsea boots: cognac Paul Smith (any idea on who makes their shoes?), black New Republic*. Casual weekend shoes: brown suede New Republic*, brown suede Tods, Prada slip-ons & sandals. Casual boots: Fenestrier, Blundstone. Misc: Testoni opera pomps, assorted sneakers (Coq de Sportif, Adidas, Nike running shoes), many soccer shoes in various states of disrepair, hiking boots, Birks, etc. *As a point of explanation, I had once posted a question about whatever happened to the owner/designer of New Republic and got no reply. It was a really lovely shop in Soho NYC (at one point rated by Flusser as one of the very best men's stores in the country) that closed about 7 years ago. It was sort of a hip haberdashery, similar in design to Paul Smith. Lots of its own label. I don't know who made the shoes though, and they were/are only of marginal quality. But a good buy for the student that I was.
post #90 of 149
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Allen Edmonds -- what was called "benchmade" (although I'm suspicious)
Do they still make these shoes?
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