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post #61 of 68
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Originally Posted by mensimageconsultant
To go off topic and maybe repeat what is in the thread somewhere, a recent news report claimed that going to college might not be economically worthwhile. (Sorry for the lack of details or a source.)


It is definitely financially worthwhile as, statistically, holders of a bachelors degree earn nearly double that of HS-only grads.

Whether or not it is economically worthwhile is another matter depending on the individual.

bob
post #62 of 68
Since I'd gone to prep school, college was like getting out of prison.

My college is old and prestigious and attracts students from seemingly everywhere. During freshman orientation, I met so many amazing people I thought I was admitted by mistake.

A few days later, by the time classes began, I realized I was surrounded by some of the biggest fakers and phoneys and dipshits on the planet. I wondered how in hell did they manage to scam the admissions office into accepting them.

But for the next four years, I had a blast. I actually managed to get a first rate education even if far far too many of my classes were a complete waste of time and money. I also slept late, drank more than was good for me and fucked lots of girls. I read good books and saw good movies and generally enjoyed myself.

Looking back, I'd say everything I disliked about those years was not the fault or responsibility of the university, but owed to me personally and who I was.

The only thing I miss about college is that it was never easier to meet interesting and intelligent people. Not so in the world of work.
post #63 of 68
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Originally Posted by auto90403
The only thing I miss about college is that it was never easier to meet interesting and intelligent people. Not so in the world of work.
So true it's sad. There's a certain level of discourse that I took for granted when I was school. Only during the few years that I worked after undergrad did I realize that people generally shuts down their critical brain functions after they graduate. It wasn't as if I hung around an uneducated bunch. Most of these people graduated from university, some with advanced or professional degrees. But still, it seems like the cutting edge thinking normally found in a college campus wasn't there anymore. I also observed that people tend to be more politically correct in non-academic settings. I'm so glad I'm back in school now. Two more years to enjoy. But I like it so much I might stay and study forever. Maybe one day I'll be called: DarnKWorn B.S. P.E. M.B.A. J.D. M.D. Ph.D.
post #64 of 68
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Originally Posted by DarkNWorn
I also observed that people tend to be more politically correct in non-academic settings.
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Is that possible???

Seriously, one of the best things about being out of college is not getting dozens of silly daily e-mails about "[Insert Minority Here] Pride Rally Today!" or "Important Diversity Seminar!" and not having to open up the crappy campus newspaper and read front page articles about the university's latest official pander-to-minority-group project or editorial rants about a "latent culture of discrimination." That's all unrelated to academia, but then again you also get schools that are really big into the weird psuedo-disciplines like Queer-Black-Jewish-Transgendered-Handicapped-Women's Studies (not that I think groups should be ignored in academia, but these niche "studies" allow lazy or politically driven people to avoid having to build a foundation in history, literature, philosophy, etc. necessary to consider these subjects in a broad context relevant to the humanities as a whole).

I guess your average office could feature similar PC institutions and work environments, but I'd say the differences are a) in the corporate setting, they're imposed more as a safeguard from litigation than as the product of a philosophical agenda and b) you can easily choose not to be an office monkey and avoid that kind of crap, whereas college is viewed as more of a compulsory institution that everyone should attend.
post #65 of 68
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Since I'd gone to prep school, college was like getting out of prison.

My college is old and prestigious and attracts students from seemingly everywhere. During freshman orientation, I met so many amazing people I thought I was admitted by mistake.

A few days later, by the time classes began, I realized I was surrounded by some of the biggest fakers and phoneys and dipshits on the planet. I wondered how in hell did they manage to scam the admissions office into accepting them.

Reading through this thread, this is how I'm feeling about university so far.

Pretty interesting to hear the university experiences of guys on this forum. I've only heard experiences from my dad's friends who went to school 20-30+ years ago, and from my recently-graduated cousin who is a complete sheep anyways.

Right now, I'm about three months into college and I'm having mixed reactions. I go to Xavier, if that accounts for anything. I realize it's going to be a bit different than state schools. I also realize that three months in is hardly a time to judge, just wanted to give a little update on my experience thus far.

Academically, I'm doing pretty well, and I really like it here. I'm studying, not cramming, and I'm getting all my shit done. I've been told all my life that my gen-ed classes would be taught by barely-articulate TA's, and my professors would drop in every Friday to brag about their research. Not so. So far, I really respect most of my professors. They seem to genuinely give a shit. Maybe they're just fakers, but they're good fakers then.

Socially, things are a little disheartening. I can't believe how many idiots and fakes I'm meeting. The guys come off as being casual and cool, but when you talk to them for more than five minutes it seems like all they're interested in is how many dicks are drawn on their forehead when they wake up on a Saturday morning after a night of blackout raging. The girls here seem a lot more intelligent, mature, and fun than in high school, but I still don't understand why the guy that sleeps all day and doesn't do much of anything is more appealing than normal guys. Maybe I'm the naive little college student, who knows.

Of course, I'm meeting great people here, and I am generalizing way too much, but you get the point.

Three months in is a bit early to judge college. I've had some fun times, some shitty times, and some incredibly blah times.
post #66 of 68
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Originally Posted by hyperblastxan1 View Post
Reading through this thread, this is how I'm feeling about university so far.

Pretty interesting to hear the university experiences of guys on this forum. I've only heard experiences from my dad's friends who went to school 20-30+ years ago, and from my recently-graduated cousin who is a complete sheep anyways.

Right now, I'm about three months into college and I'm having mixed reactions. I go to Xavier, if that accounts for anything. I realize it's going to be a bit different than state schools. I also realize that three months in is hardly a time to judge, just wanted to give a little update on my experience thus far.

Academically, I'm doing pretty well, and I really like it here. I'm studying, not cramming, and I'm getting all my shit done. I've been told all my life that my gen-ed classes would be taught by barely-articulate TA's, and my professors would drop in every Friday to brag about their research. Not so. So far, I really respect most of my professors. They seem to genuinely give a shit. Maybe they're just fakers, but they're good fakers then.

Socially, things are a little disheartening. I can't believe how many idiots and fakes I'm meeting. The guys come off as being casual and cool, but when you talk to them for more than five minutes it seems like all they're interested in is how many dicks are drawn on their forehead when they wake up on a Saturday morning after a night of blackout raging. The girls here seem a lot more intelligent, mature, and fun than in high school, but I still don't understand why the guy that sleeps all day and doesn't do much of anything is more appealing than normal guys. Maybe I'm the naive little college student, who knows.

Of course, I'm meeting great people here, and I am generalizing way too much, but you get the point.

Three months in is a bit early to judge college. I've had some fun times, some shitty times, and some incredibly blah times.

You need to get out more. And get drunk more.
post #67 of 68
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Originally Posted by hyperblastxan1 View Post
Reading through this thread, this is how I'm feeling about university so far.

Pretty interesting to hear the university experiences of guys on this forum. I've only heard experiences from my dad's friends who went to school 20-30+ years ago, and from my recently-graduated cousin who is a complete sheep anyways.

Right now, I'm about three months into college and I'm having mixed reactions. I go to Xavier, if that accounts for anything. I realize it's going to be a bit different than state schools. I also realize that three months in is hardly a time to judge, just wanted to give a little update on my experience thus far.

Academically, I'm doing pretty well, and I really like it here. I'm studying, not cramming, and I'm getting all my shit done. I've been told all my life that my gen-ed classes would be taught by barely-articulate TA's, and my professors would drop in every Friday to brag about their research. Not so. So far, I really respect most of my professors. They seem to genuinely give a shit. Maybe they're just fakers, but they're good fakers then.

Socially, things are a little disheartening. I can't believe how many idiots and fakes I'm meeting. The guys come off as being casual and cool, but when you talk to them for more than five minutes it seems like all they're interested in is how many dicks are drawn on their forehead when they wake up on a Saturday morning after a night of blackout raging. The girls here seem a lot more intelligent, mature, and fun than in high school, but I still don't understand why the guy that sleeps all day and doesn't do much of anything is more appealing than normal guys. Maybe I'm the naive little college student, who knows.

Of course, I'm meeting great people here, and I am generalizing way too much, but you get the point.

Three months in is a bit early to judge college. I've had some fun times, some shitty times, and some incredibly blah times.

Eh, I go to Marquette and it's a private Jesuit University. My guess is that it's pretty similar to Xavier in terms of the feel and everything. It costs big bucks to go to Xavier, and my guess is most of the kids are privileged beyond belief without even knowing it. I've met a lot of pretentious cocks too, but I'm sure after awhile you'll be alright with people. It's not like high school where groups are set in stone, you have four years to meet people.

You sound like a guy that has pretty picky tastes with people. Just hang out with people, even if you don't like them. You'll at least be able to drink and you'll eventually meet some people you do like through those people.
post #68 of 68
I love college. If anything, I'm not going out and drinking enough.

And life here is definitely not like Wolfe's depiction of college. Drunken debauchery? Yes. Rape? Some. Crystal meth/coke/X? Not that I've seen or heard of at all. It's really just a bunch of smart kids having some good fun in moderation.

Some of the rest of you kids need to drop the pretences and just relax and have fun.

And it's not like I'm the cool kid at school or BMOC...far from it. But get out of your shells a little. Work hard, play hard.
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