Originally Posted by rdawson808
On what are you basing this?
Every school has a mix of income level, politics, and maturity. Some schools are more conservative or more liberal, but it depends on the school. The majority of my students have been mature. The ones who aren't tend to have such bad manners they overwhelm the good ones. And it has nothing to do with politics or money. And speaking of which, there is a wide spread of family income levels.
I'm not sure where you get this idea. Public or private, the student dynamic is the same. You find your group and that's who you hang with.
This is not what I see. Here's a list of common traits and events: Cheating as ubiquitous and accepted as breathing, wonton destruction of one's own property (you just don't wing a $150+ TI-89T against a wall, you just don't), removal of flip flops in class or putting their feet up on the chair in front of them, pointing the soles of their shoes at the Prof (bad when she's a Turk), gross absence from classes (8:00am classes that didn't have 60% of the expected 90+ students), lots of arrests for public drunkeness and urination, horrific language (take Jon, square him, and make him yell), a senior class that pretty much trashed the new engineering computer lab the last week of class, implosion of the Greek system through insouciant lack of concern, the idea that arguing with the Prof about your grade is normal, oh I could go on.
I had a guy show up drunk for a presentation we were giving to our corporate client and a selection of faculty once. That was cool.
The majority of the student body was white, upper-middle to affluent, with a small proportion of Asian students and only a handful of Black students. To give you an idea of the affluence level, several Cayennes, Hummers in two varieties, and two Ducatis were in the undergrad vehicle fleet. BMWs, Audis, and other similar makes were common. The student population seemed very uniform and equivalent across the five colleges.
On the other hand, I went to a state school for two years -- now that was a mix. Far more international students you could acutally learn from, and a wide variety of people and cultures were represented. There were punks and goths and gamers for some variety, none of which I saw at the private institution. Further, what I thought was bad behavior there was completely eclipsed by what I saw when I moved on to 'better' places.
So one of the several points I am trying to raise is that affluence does play a role -- the private Uni suffers under the weight of entitlement the students feel. This is a common complaint from faculty and the town.Additionally, I do see a different mix going from public to private. Finally, I looked forward to this all my (yet short) life and will not be looking back on it as a high point.
Apologies for the poor diction, time is not waiting for me. BTW rd, thanks for your reply to me in an earlier thread. It bounced off the first two pages so I didn't resurrect it, but I did read it.