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post #31 of 68
Fuck it. Read Faulkner.
post #32 of 68
My Ivy League experience entailed staying stoned all the time and doing my classical Japanese homework with a Namiki Emperor.
post #33 of 68
What sort of ball does the Ivy League play with?
post #34 of 68
Dude, what school do you go to? I can see someone choosing a small liberal arts school and having a lousy time because it's a poor fit. If you're in the Ivy League, though, I have no pity on you. Those places really are the real deal and are deserving of their reputation of offering amazing opportunities and truly diverse student bodies. If you can't find your crew at a world-class school, you're not trying hard enough.
post #35 of 68
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Originally Posted by metaphysician
Wolfe's depiction of campus life is very close to reality.

Yeah...people are fucking idiots.

Jon.
post #36 of 68
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Originally Posted by johnapril
What sort of ball does the Ivy League play with?
They used to call it a cotillion.
post #37 of 68
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Originally Posted by Violinist
To have those questions answered this early in life would be depressing... enjoy the evolution.

I've stayed very much the same in a lot of ways, my personality has simply matured somewhat so that I can articulate more eloquently (by my actions) who I am. Some people do complete 180s when they come to university.

That's because most people couldn't even grasp a faint idea of who they actually are; and its not just 20-somethings, how many 50-year-olds can't grapple their own true self-image either? Most of them.

V-Man, Moneys is important, it is a very fundamental part of life, but it is NOT life itself. The entire pursuit of life is not to make money, even though working in it of itself is a means to one end goal: making money. This separation is something to keep in mind; it seems to get lost for some reason.

Jon.
post #38 of 68
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Originally Posted by imageWIS
That’s because most people couldn’t even grasp a faint idea of who they actually are; and its not just 20-somethings, how many 50-year-olds can’t grapple their own true self-image either? Most of them.

V-Man, Moneys is important, it is a very fundamental part of life, but it is NOT life itself. The entire pursuit of life is not to make money, even though working in it of itself is a means to one end goal: making money. This separation is something to keep in mind; it seems to get lost for some reason.

Jon.

Unfortunately a LOT of the people at good universities are either Warren Buffett wanabes (although funny enough, NONE of them share his altruistic traits and his simple outlook on life, so it's more like Gordon Gekko wannabes...) and the other major archetype is the sort of urban bohemian... they collect certain types of friends, and come from homes where pizza and turkey sandwiches were eaten then once they hit university everything is done with chopsticks...

No matter where you go from a blue collar workplace all the way to the best schools... people are EXACTLY the same. Even well heeled, intelligent people are total lemmings, no matter how original they think they're being. People are the same everywhere...

I completely agree with you. Quiet desperation. There are preciously few people who have the confidence and the chutzpah to live their own lives. Then again, as Weber says, we need rationalization too. The world needs many people to make life possible, and such people are often driven by the more coventional rewards in life.
post #39 of 68
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Originally Posted by johnapril
What sort of ball does the Ivy League play with?

The preferred term is "orbs." Please see "Ye Olde Babes Thread" for an illustration.
post #40 of 68
How about the classroom?
post #41 of 68
hey, I spent the years I should been in university sleeping on the ground and killing enemies of humanity. it would have probrably been a lot more fun to be in universtiy, but it seemed like a good idea at the time. I went to university a lot later, and didn't really enjoy it very much at all.

enjoy what you can, and if you can't, look for a better fit. from stories I have heard from people here, several took alternative routes and some of those enjoyed those alternatives. on the other hand, it may be better just to finish it up and get on with adulthood, maybe you will find being a young adult to be more enjoyable than being a student.....
post #42 of 68
I went to two schools and took some time off to travel and reflect on life before landing at the one I'm currently attending. The freedom from the schooling/teenage environment was far more instrumental in shaping my character than college, where, oftentimes, the only plus seems to be the professors and the few actively intelligent students around. It's important to actively engage in the community outside the school, too. Too many insipid students will rot your mind.

Then again, most people who eagerly complain aren't the upstanding "outsiders" they make themselves out to be. The manna of life is scattered everywhere, within and without the ivy-deckled buildings. And inside the mind. Seek it.
post #43 of 68
They all drink too much and copulate like rabbits. And dress bad. That includes the Ivy League.
post #44 of 68
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Originally Posted by imageWIS
V-Man, Moneys is important, it is a very fundamental part of life, but it is NOT life itself. The entire pursuit of life is not to make money, even though working in it of itself is a means to one end goal: making money. This separation is something to keep in mind; it seems to get lost for some reason.

Jon.

Good call - I understand this.

I have been somewhat self-employed through an ebay business for the past few years. I can probably make more money now than I would make in an entry level job. All I'm concerned about right now is making enough to pay the bills, and to have fun with. I'm sure I've had more fun than most people my age, and I appreciate this. I'm sure in the future I will want to make enough to do both of the above, and have a nice savings account. I've always done pretty well for my self through improv and entrepreneurship, and I just want to keep that going in the future.
post #45 of 68
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Originally Posted by LabelKing
They all drink too much and copulate like rabbits. And dress bad. That includes the Ivy League.

I got laid more in one year at a Zen monastery than in five years of college. There's something fundamentally wrong with that.

I dressed very well during college. The same cannot be said for the majority of my fellow students.
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