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why · Mar 7, 2010

Yes, but thast requires an orange to somehow be worse in some way compared to orange juice, even to an individual. I can't imagine a person who prefers orange juice to an orange has any gustatory sense.

CDFS · Mar 7, 2010

I can't imagine a person who can't imagine that at different times in life/during the day/week one wants different kind of food even with nearly the same taste. Do you like chocolat? Or Chocolat milk? Or Chocolat mousse? Or chocolat icecream. Or chocolat cake?

Subsitute a favorite foodstuff for chocolat if you like.

APK · Mar 7, 2010

Originally Posted by why

No I didn't.

You've stated in the past that it's not healthy.

CDFS · Mar 7, 2010

Originally Posted by CDFS

I can't imagine a person who can't imagine that at different times in life/during the day/week one wants different kind of food even with nearly the same taste. Do you like sardines? Or sardine milk? Or sardine mousse? Or sardine icecream. Or sardine cake? Subsitute a favorite foodstuff for sardines if you like.
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why · Mar 7, 2010

Originally Posted by APK

You've stated in the past that it's not healthy.

I can't recall. When?

Originally Posted by CDFS

I can't imagine a person who can't imagine that at different times in life/during the day/week one wants different kind of food even with nearly the same taste. Do you like chocolat? Or Chocolat milk? Or Chocolat mousse? Or chocolat icecream. Or chocolat cake?

Subsitute a favorite foodstuff for chocolat if you like.

I agree on that point, but I (and I assume Flambeur) were speaking more generally (e.g. someone who drinks orange juice regularly but almost never eats oranges themselves).

CDFS · Mar 7, 2010

Originally Posted by why

I agree on that point, but I (and I assume Flambeur) were speaking more generally (e.g. someone who drinks orange juice regularly but almost never eats oranges themselves).

OK, I guess. On another note, you're needed in a three year old thread. I thought I'd let you know

APK · Mar 7, 2010

Originally Posted by why

I can't recall. When?

Originally Posted by why

Olive oil is also not 'healthy'. It's better than butter, shortening, and rendered beef fat but its pervasive view of healthiness is in due large part to the labels on it that says something along the lines of 'this is healthy if used in place of bacon grease'. It has minimal Omega-3s -- pretty much the only fats that are 'needed' -- and most people end up using way too much.

I read that recently in one of the older threads when I was sifting through this forum.

whacked · Mar 7, 2010

^ I agree with the below post. Aside from maybe taste, there's nothing wrong with spray.

Originally Posted by why

Olive oil is also not 'healthy'. It's better than butter, shortening, and rendered beef fat but its pervasive view of healthiness is in due large part to the labels on it that says something along the lines of 'this is healthy if used in place of bacon grease'. It has minimal Omega-3s -- pretty much the only fats that are 'needed' -- and most people end up using way too much.

It takes too much effort to be a purist on all aspect of life.

Connemara · Mar 7, 2010

I should note: when I say I make eggs with olive oil, I mean that I grease the pan with a dollop of oil. I don't pour it on my eggs or anything.

3/7

3 scrambled eggs
Handful of blueberries
1 slice toast w/peanut butter
2 cups black coffee

2.5oz. albacore tuna "salad" (w/ olive oil and pepper), white cheddar, spinach on multigrain
About half of an apple
2 carrots

1 Kashi TLC cereal bar, strawberry
1/3 pint of chocolate milk
2 bottles of water

Handful of organic tortilla chips with Newman's Own spicy salsa (pretty good stuff)

Wheat linguine with Conne's Famous Garlic Pasta Sauce and meatballs
2 glasses wine

1 Lindt 70% cocoa bar (pretty small, 1.2 oz. i think?)

kwilkinson · Mar 7, 2010

Originally Posted by Connemara

I should note: when I say I make eggs with olive oil, I mean that I grease the pan with a dollop of oil. I don't pour it on my eggs or anything.
I don't think anyone here is stupid enough to assume you were pouring olive oil on your eggs like it was sriracha or something.

why · Mar 7, 2010

Originally Posted by APK

I read that recently in one of the older threads when I was sifting through this forum.

Notice the quotes around 'healthy' (generally an orthographic marker for a useless term). I was referring to the collective idea of olive oil as 'healthy', when its basic structure is no more 'healthy' than many other oils. I was not decrying olive oil as some toxic substance. I've said the same about oatmeal, cheerios, and other foods in the past. Essentially, I'm trying to get people to think beyond food labels and move their understanding beyond memorizing prescriptions of 'healthy foods' (cf. pretty much every other post I make in this forum. There are a few in this thread as well: http://www.styleforum.net/showpost.p...0&postcount=66, http://www.styleforum.net/showpost.p...2&postcount=84)

nootje · Mar 7, 2010

Originally Posted by Connemara

I've really just had enough. I need to drop 10 pounds minimum and I have been totally undisciplined about weight loss. In this threak I will post what I eat on a daily basis. Basically, I'm hoping that you guys help keep me honest by providing tips and scathing criticism (when necessary!).

Upon looking in the mirror today, I realized I just didn't look right. I am back up to 169 lbs. (about 5'9") and it's obviously not a healthy weight.

So yeah, here it goes.

Starting weight: 169lbs.
Food for 3/4/10

-3 eggs, scrambled, pepper and salt
-1 slice multigrain toast w/unsalted peanut butter

-Pack of Hostess chocolate donettes

-Peanut butter and jelly w/ bag of Fritos (one of the "small" 99 cent bags)
-Half of a tuna melt w/cheddar cheese

-Five Guys french fries, regular size (I had about half of them)
-Can of Wolfgang Puck chicken & wild rice soup

sigh... except for sfields comment about quality over quantity I really dont understand the whole dieting thingy. From what I know about your life is that youre a student and a guvmint deskjockey, so you hardly do any (physical) labor to speak of, which means that all that food you listed isnt nessecary.

Same type of list, but my suggestion:

Breakfast : one egg, slice of toast with cheese, glass of orange juice.

lunch : small ham and cheese sandwich

dinner : whatever you fancy, be it more whole foods (no fastfood)

and stop the snacks in between. For drinks coffee or tea would be fine, limit your amounts of softdrinks and just order some water with your lunch..

j.u.s.t. e.a.t. l.e.s.s.

Flambeur · Mar 7, 2010

RE: Orange Juice

CDFS, are you serious? Unless you squeeze fresh OJ daily and eat the pulp + membranes, the benefits to eating a whole orange over drinking typical processed and pasteurized crap are pretty clear to me.

SField · Mar 8, 2010

Olive oil isn't "healthy" in the manner that broccoli or spinach is, but if you look at its use throughout the Mediterranean you can see why it's a significant component of that cuisine. It's one of the better fats you can use, and mainly because it tastes so good and is so easy to come by. Just like avocado, it's rich in calories, but again that shouldn't be your biggest concern. I think food is about enjoyment first, and temperance second. (And that heirarchy can only exist if the second is always considered).

CDFS · Mar 8, 2010

Originally Posted by Flambeur

RE: Orange Juice

CDFS, are you serious? Unless you squeeze fresh OJ daily and eat the pulp + membranes, the benefits to eating a whole orange over drinking typical processed and pasteurized crap are pretty clear to me.

Were we talking about factory made OJ the whole time? News to me. Even if we were my arguments hold water still. There's always a better healthier choice out there. Oranges as a fruit aren't even the best choice. So its byproducts can't be either.

For the record, I was speaking of fresh OJ. Quenching your thirst on that in the morning can be very satisfying. IMO, more so than eating the fruit. Would this be a proper time to add ymmv?

To me factory made OJ is always a big dissapoint.

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