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post #31 of 44
I'd suggest taking a TINY bit of time off if possible and going to go do something, like travel, even for a few months. I wish I had had a break after highschool before university. Pick a country or two and couchserf, meet some interesting people and see what life is like. It'll make you more mature when you hit University. As much as i want to agree with the "do what you love" bit from above, the sad truth is life costs money. Most people don't like their jobs anyway. Get a qualification that will feed your children and save whatever you can. Hell, get 2-3 certificates. Spend waht you want on side hobbies for fun.
post #32 of 44
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Originally Posted by texas_jack View Post
You can only live for yourself. You parents probably left so your life would be better. Make it that way.

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Originally Posted by Syl View Post
Here's some simple truth - your parents do not want you to be unhappy. I know most young people think their parents purpose in life is to make their's difficult but it's simply not the case. Imagine for a second how your parents would feel if they made this choice to leave their home country, work like dogs for you and you end up unhappy because of it. That's a far worse fate than you simply being ungrateful.

The fact is if you parents (or anyone's parents) made such a sacrifice, they are willing to sacrifice more for you. You parents likely even don't want you to be now doing something you don't like in order to "pay them back".

Again, here's some truth - parents know and understand they have give up things in order for their kids, but they do not expect their kids to give up for them. (mind you - some do). Your parents hopefully want you to have a better life.

Sit with them, talk with them honestly. You may be surprised at how they support you.

They sacrificed because they thought it was important that their children could have opportunities that they never had. So take full advantage of your opportunities. Don't settle for being a male nurse. I never put up with what I didn't like and I don't regret my choices for a minute.

Think about it this way. Some day you'll have kids (that is, unless you're becoming a male nurse because you're queer). Ask yourself: am I enough of a man that I can live with my choices, and let my kids make their own choices?

Well, are you?

Is your father?
post #33 of 44
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Originally Posted by Mr. White View Post
They sacrificed because they thought it was important that their children could have opportunities that they never had. So take full advantage of your opportunities. Don't settle for being a male nurse. I never put up with what I didn't like and I don't regret my choices for a minute.

Think about it this way. Some day you'll have kids (that is, unless you're becoming a male nurse because you're queer). Ask yourself: am I enough of a man that I can live with my choices, and let my kids make their own choices?

Well, are you?

Is your father?

Huh?
post #34 of 44
Keep in mind you're getting a very American answer here. American culture is not family oriented. I'm not sure about Russians, but if you were posting in a European or Asian board, you'd be getting different answers. For some, family is everything.. are you so averse to going into nursing that you'd be willing to jeopardize your family's quality of life? (Okay, that's a bit extreme but you get my point)

There are other factors to consider too: how far is your dad out from retirement? how old are your siblings and for how long will they remain dependants for your parents? Will you be the sole breadwinner? how badly do you want to go down this other road or is it just a temporary fixation?

I'll echo what some others have said.. nursing is a great profession. Many college grads come out of school, realize they have no marketable skills whatsoever, and try to become nurses because a) it pays well, b) there's demand for it and c) it's respectable.
post #35 of 44
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Originally Posted by Mr. White View Post
They sacrificed because they thought it was important that their children could have opportunities that they never had. So take full advantage of your opportunities. Don't settle for being a male nurse. I never put up with what I didn't like and I don't regret my choices for a minute.

Think about it this way. Some day you'll have kids (that is, unless you're becoming a male nurse because you're queer). Ask yourself: am I enough of a man that I can live with my choices, and let my kids make their own choices?

Well, are you?

Is your father?

How old are you exactly? It's hard to explain how disrespectful this is on so many levels.
post #36 of 44
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How old are you exactly? It's hard to explain how disrespectful this is on so many levels.


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post #37 of 44
Mr. White is a self described 'gentleman.'
post #38 of 44
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How old are you exactly? It's hard to explain how disrespectful this is on so many levels.

Good. I meant it to be disrespectful.
post #39 of 44
OK, lots of responses here that I have opinions on....so working through them and occasionally reorganising them....
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Originally Posted by Hombre Secreto View Post
RN's make a lot of money, but if you don't want to be one... don't. Find something you love. If you love it than it will make you great at it. The money will follow.
I have never really subscribed to that train of thought. In my own career I have found that whenever I have serviced a client in an industry I was supposedly passionate about, the inner workings of said industry have turned me off my once-loved-passion! I have tended to better in fields I have lukewarm emotions and rational, objective counsel to offer, and kept my interests interesting!
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Originally Posted by celery View Post
Money creates opportunity. Going into a field that pays well and offers great flexibility is a smart thing to do. What you love is most likely somewhat impractical (i.e. art, music, dance, and so on with other liberal arts), because I highly doubt you are torn between becoming a nurse and becoming an engineer. If you are truly passionate about something, there will be no stopping you from pursuing it as a hobby, or even academically after you have set up a practical life. .. Another word of warning (from a Fine Arts graduate), is that what you love may not function the same way professionally. As soon as it becomes something you must do (you know, for money), you might find yourself finding it just as restrictive as a regular job. I'm not saying that you can't do something you love and be successful doing it, I'm just saying that you can start with a solid, practical foundation, and then do what you love after
I tend to agree with this more than with the 'if you do what you love you will never work a day' theory - since most people who espouse it don't seem to be in love with financial planning, but think fashion design could be just the ticket for them. In reality, very very few make it, generally because their creative side runs wild and free while their business acumen falls by the wayside.
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Originally Posted by globetrotter View Post
if you can get a nursing degree by age 21 (if I understood your post correctly), do it. there are a lot of things that you can do with a nursing degree that aren't nursing (medical sales, for one) and a nurse can always find a job, including jobs that include travel. even if you want to then turn around and go to university and have fun, being a 22 year old freshman with a great job to pay the bills won't be such a bad thing. on the flip side - as long as you don't create more burdens for your parents, you shouldn't throw away your life to make them happy. the "contract" between parents and kids is that the parents do what they can to prepare the kids for life, but the kids have to make their own decsions, and live their own lives. you can help your parents later when you have money by supporting them a little in their retirmeent etc - just don't become a burden to them now.
Once again Zach and I are in complete agreement in one of these threads. We are both pretty much wired for pragmatism in issues of career choice/education choices. The big hole that the OP is yet to answer is 'what does he really wanna do?' I can tell you that nursing will give you some very interesting opportunities later if you go back and study later/do the MBA or whatever...I work in PR for example. If you went and did some kind of comms training, you would be a shoo-in to work in this field as a healthcare PR consultant, or inhouse at a pharma company. Those people are like gold. I'm sure I am far from being the only person in such an industry either...Zach already mentioned medical sales. Insurance? Law? Lobbying? Public policy? These are all disciplines that keep churning out a Certain Sort Of Grad, but in fact are crying out for specialists who seemingly do not exist. You have a great opportunity to be That Guy.
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Originally Posted by GQgeek View Post
Do you know what you want to do or do you just know that it's not nursing? You will learn that "finding" yourself in college will get very expensive very fast.
^this
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Originally Posted by Master-Classter View Post
I'd suggest taking a TINY bit of time off if possible and going to go do something, like travel, even for a few months. I wish I had had a break after highschool before university. Pick a country or two and couchserf, meet some interesting people and see what life is like. It'll make you more mature when you hit University. As much as i want to agree with the "do what you love" bit from above, the sad truth is life costs money. Most people don't like their jobs anyway. Get a qualification that will feed your children and save whatever you can. Hell, get 2-3 certificates. Spend waht you want on side hobbies for fun.
well here's a thought - is there any profession in the world that will give you the ability to travel as much as nursing will? My ex is a nurse, just back from making buckets on a 2 yr stint in Saudi. She has now moved to outback Australia, and is loving country life, and again, making buckets of money (i think tax free as part of some govt incentive program to improve rural health care or somesuch). She had previously followed me to Singapore, where she worked in a dialysis center and later in an oncology ward there - both interesting experiences for her, that have led to her being very sought after these days - the variety she has done meant that she was wooed very strongly into her current role because in an all-hands-on-deck country hospital, she can do most anything. Go work immunisation in Africa, eastern Europe in hospital management, South America, whatever, you will have an incredibly portable skill that will allow you take you just about anywhere should travel be something you are interested in. And, as per a zillion and three comments above, including my own, then come back and look at what that offers you in other fields, with a buffer of financial security, and no need to be a drain on the family any further, as you study [whatever] while temp nursing or racing all over town doing pathology work (both things my ex did when she was between jobs btw)
post #40 of 44
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Mr. White is a self described 'gentleman.'

I don't agree with the dummied-down line that a gentleman is a man who makes men feel comfortable. A whore does that. A gentleman says and does what people need him to say and do. A gentleman stands up for whats right even if doing so hurts the feelings of users and abusers and makes him unpopular.
post #41 of 44
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Originally Posted by Mr. White View Post
I don't agree with the dummied-down line that a gentleman is a man who makes men feel comfortable. A whore does that. A gentleman says and does what people need him to say and do. A gentleman stands up for whats right even if doing so hurts the feelings of users and abusers and makes him unpopular.

A gentleman is not prejudiced.
post #42 of 44
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Originally Posted by Mr. White View Post
I don't agree with the dummied-down line that a gentleman is a man who makes men feel comfortable. A whore does that. A gentleman says and does what people need him to say and do. A gentleman stands up for whats right even if doing so hurts the feelings of users and abusers and makes him unpopular.

Who needs you to say "unless you're becoming a male nurse because you're queer"? Hard to find anything gentlemanly in that, Mr. White. Just sounds like cliched prejudice.
post #43 of 44
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Originally Posted by Alter View Post
Just sounds like cliched prejudice.

The doe-eyed innocence act doesn't even pretend to hide that it's a fake. Save it for teenagers.
post #44 of 44
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Originally Posted by Mr. White View Post
The doe-eyed innocence act doesn't even pretend to hide that it's a fake. Save it for teenagers.
I thought you were a teenager.
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