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post #31 of 50
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I posted about it in another thread. The original plan was to get out here in order to go to a community college and get into the UC system for a transfer, getting a place to live and a job in the meantime, etc.
post #32 of 50
I ask because the notion of driving cross country to a place where you barely know anyone seems like a romantically notioned adventure. I don’t know the specifics of your situation but from what I’ve read I would suggest you find what you were looking for before you leave. Connecticut, College, or the Military will still be there.
post #33 of 50
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Well, I was born here, little as that counts for, and I thought I had more people out here I could count on than, well, I could. The UC system is also many orders of magnitude better than what Connecticut has, which tends to extend to most comparisons between the two states.
post #34 of 50
You've fought your whole way to get there and now you're going to leave? WTF. You'd better make California kill you or die trying. Or something. I can't remember what I mean, but you should give it a shot before giving up. If you go back to suck-land, it's still going to suck, you will feel defeated, and god knows what will happen on the way back...
post #35 of 50
You might get raped.
post #36 of 50
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Originally Posted by j
You've fought your whole way to get there and now you're going to leave? WTF. You'd better make California kill you or die trying. Or something. I can't remember what I mean, but you should give it a shot before giving up. If you go back to suck-land, it's still going to suck, you will feel defeated, and god knows what will happen on the way back...
This is what I'm talking about, though. I have no doubt that I can survive here. But I want to do more than survive, and right now, it seems like it might actually suck more than going back. Determination is one thing; pressing on in the face of Pyrrhic odds is quite another. My dilemma, as it is, is figuring out which is which.
post #37 of 50
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Originally Posted by Arethusa
I posted about it in another thread. The original plan was to get out here in order to go to a community college and get into the UC system for a transfer, getting a place to live and a job in the meantime, etc.
so, what's the problem?
post #38 of 50
If I were in California, I would get a job at a coffee shop and rent a simple place, maybe with roommates. I would shop for used books in Berkeley. I would read in cafes.

I did for 12 years. Then I left.
post #39 of 50
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Originally Posted by Arethusa
This is what I'm talking about, though. I have no doubt that I can survive here. But I want to do more than survive, and right now, it seems like it might actually suck more than going back. Determination is one thing; pressing on in the face of Pyrrhic odds is quite another. My dilemma, as it is, is figuring out which is which.
Are you still in the Palo Alto area? Part of the problem is the expense of living there, which is high even for CA--too damn many software engineers--except for east Palo Alto, which is less expensive but not a place you want to be at all. If you can stay with a friend in that area, though, for a few months at no or low rent, I'd say do it and save your pennies. Get that coffee shop job that Johnapril described (Starbucks actually pays pretty well and has good HR policies), enroll in a community college in Palo Alto, San Jose, or in San Francisco proper (even in SF, you can CalTrain up there and MUNI within the City--no need for a car--but I can't remember whether SF has a CC within the City), get that 3.5 GPA and complete the IGETC (IIRC) requirements, and transfer to a UC school.

Oakland is less expensive but also much less hospitable, though if you get a place near a BART or bus line you needn't spend much non-sleep time there. Places like Dublin, Pleasanton, or Martinez would also have slightly lower rents, but could give you proximity to BART, which keeps your options open even w/o a car, and proximity to East-Bay CCs with decent transfer rates to the UC.
post #40 of 50
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Originally Posted by Tyto
Are you still in the Palo Alto area? Part of the problem is the expense of living there, which is high even for CA--too damn many software engineers--except for east Palo Alto, which is less expensive but not a place you want to be at all. If you can stay with a friend in that area, though, for a few months at no or low rent, I'd say do it and save your pennies. Get that coffee shop job that Johnapril described (Starbucks actually pays pretty well and has good HR policies), enroll in a community college in Palo Alto, San Jose, or in San Francisco proper (even in SF, you can CalTrain up there and MUNI within the City--no need for a car--but I can't remember whether SF has a CC within the City), get that 3.5 GPA and complete the IGETC (IIRC) requirements, and transfer to a UC school.

Oakland is less expensive but also much less hospitable, though if you get a place near a BART or bus line you needn't spend much non-sleep time there. Places like Dublin, Pleasanton, or Martinez would also have slightly lower rents, but could give you proximity to BART, which keeps your options open even w/o a car, and proximity to East-Bay CCs with decent transfer rates to the UC.

Cheap studios or shared apartments can be had along the Oakland-Berkeley border with close access to BART. The area is getting better.
post #41 of 50
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Originally Posted by Tyto
Are you still in the Palo Alto area? Part of the problem is the expense of living there, which is high even for CA--too damn many software engineers--except for east Palo Alto, which is less expensive but not a place you want to be at all. If you can stay with a friend in that area, though, for a few months at no or low rent, I'd say do it and save your pennies. Get that coffee shop job that Johnapril described (Starbucks actually pays pretty well and has good HR policies), enroll in a community college in Palo Alto, San Jose, or in San Francisco proper (even in SF, you can CalTrain up there and MUNI within the City--no need for a car--but I can't remember whether SF has a CC within the City), get that 3.5 GPA and complete the IGETC (IIRC) requirements, and transfer to a UC school. Oakland is less expensive but also much less hospitable, though if you get a place near a BART or bus line you needn't spend much non-sleep time there. Places like Dublin, Pleasanton, or Martinez would also have slightly lower rents, but could give you proximity to BART, which keeps your options open even w/o a car, and proximity to East-Bay CCs with decent transfer rates to the UC.
I am. I'll be staying here at least long enough to buy a new car, and depending on how viable school, work, and a place to live look at that point, I may stay here yet. What are the IGETC requirements? Also, do you have any idea what I'd need to get/prove residency, or at least get enough aid to let me go to school out here? Tracking down solid information on that has been somewhat dodgy, and I've not had good experiences with financial aid counselors.
post #42 of 50
Residency in California, as I remember it, required living there for 1 year. You probably need a utility bill, but I can't be sure. I wouldn't ask anyone at the schools. I would try the state government.
post #43 of 50
The following will be accepted as proof of intent to establish California residence for tuition purposes:

* State and federal tax returns with W-2 forms
* Automobile registration
* California driver's license/California ID card
* Voter registration
* Military personnel: active duty
* Bank account statements
* California license for professional practice/membership in California organizations
* Petitioner for divorce in California
* Utility bills
* Proof of employment (pay stubs)
* Mortgage statements
* Verification of public assistance

Conduct inconsistent with a claim for California residence includes but is not limited to:

* Maintaining voter registration and voting in another state.
* Being a petitioner for a divorce or lawsuit as a resident in another state.
* Attending an out-of-state institution as a resident of that state.
* Declaring nonresidence for California income tax purposes.
* Driver's license and/or vehicle registration in another state
* In the U.S. with a nonresident visa

Please note the following requirements:

Generally, intent cannot be proved with only one or two pieces of evidence. The more evidence you can present to show intent, the easier it is to become a California resident for tuition purposes. A person begins to establish intent by doing as many of the above mentioned actions AS SOON AS POSSIBLE after their arrival in California.
post #44 of 50
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Originally Posted by Arethusa
I am. I'll be staying here at least long enough to buy a new car, and depending on how viable school, work, and a place to live look at that point, I may stay here yet. What are the IGETC requirements? Also, do you have any idea what I'd need to get/prove residency, or at least get enough aid to let me go to school out here? Tracking down solid information on that has been somewhat dodgy, and I've not had good experiences with financial aid counselors.
Johnapril beat me to the residency.

IGETC used to be (may still be) the requirements you needed to fulfull to be eligible to transfer to a UC from a CC--although they had classes in common with what you need for an AA or AS degree, they aren't the same, and IGETC is (was?) critical for transfer. The counseling office of any CC should have the list/table.

Also, there used to be a list of prerequisite classes you needed to complete to enter the UC as an upperclassman (junior) in your major. This should also be available from the counseling office. My recollection was that the degree counselors at UCLA weren't as much help here as they could have been in this regard.
post #45 of 50
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Ah, thanks. At the very least, I can worry about that after I've found a place I'm going to live and a school nearby. Any idea what aid's like before getting residency? Do I just have to plan on waiting another year, or is it possible to get enough aid to cover a year of out of state tuition?
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