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post #376 of 524
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Originally Posted by zissou View Post
I'm mesmerized by the construction of these Il Bussetto coin pouches. It looks like the lid snaps down over the pouch, and there is no stitching. How is this even possible??

Boiled leather possibly?
post #377 of 524
Hi guys, Looking at photos of samurai or strike gold belts etc. Jpanese brands in general, I see they look more refined than custom belts made by artisans, like the edges are sharper and more uniform but I dont know if this is just a photo effect, I mean, does anyone has experience with these brands compared to a custom made bellt? maybe they have factory machines that do this? cheers
post #378 of 524
^ its probably burnished
post #379 of 524
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Originally Posted by islay View Post
Hi guys, Looking at photos of samurai or strike gold belts etc. Jpanese brands in general, I see they look more refined than custom belts made by artisans, like the edges are sharper and more uniform but I dont know if this is just a photo effect, I mean, does anyone has experience with these brands compared to a custom made bellt? maybe they have factory machines that do this?

cheers

Depends on the individual making the belts.
I started off with custom and "brand name" Japanese belts, and have come to expect a 'perfect' burnish as standard.
It's not to say that US craftsmen can't do the same (I've collected belts made in various countries outside Japan that have very good edge finishing)...I just think their average customer haven't come to expect the same standards as, say, Kawatako's (who makes Samurai and Stike Gold's belts) customers; if folks don't really care, why bother?

I don't think the difference lies in factory machines, it's simply the time/effot/technqiue that one is willing to invest in making a belt and how much extra $ customers are willing to pay for it.
post #380 of 524
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Originally Posted by mikecch View Post
Depends on the individual making the belts. I started off with custom and "brand name" Japanese belts, and have come to expect a 'perfect' burnish as standard. It's not to say that US craftsmen can't do the same (I've collected belts made in various countries outside Japan that have very good edge finishing)...I just think their average customer haven't come to expect the same standards as, say, Kawatako's (who makes Samurai and Stike Gold's belts) customers; if folks don't really care, why bother? I don't think the difference lies in factory machines, it's simply the time/effot/technqiue that one is willing to invest in making a belt and how much extra $ customers are willing to pay for it.
That sounds really interesting, so is possible to contact custom makers in Japan and order from them? could you give me some more details? Thanks a lot
post #381 of 524
made a thread about card cases but it was locked - http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=251166

initially, i wanted a natural card case which would darken and develop a nice patina but i really like this chester mox





how will horween age over time??

thought this chester mox was kind of interesting as well:




post #382 of 524
Chester Mox/Voodoo has been ripping off designs from MAKR Carry Goods for years. Word on the streets is that everything is made in China and drop shipped to the US. You couldn't pay me to use one of their products. This is MAKR's original card case design (Voodoo ripoff). As soon as MAKR came out with this design a couple months ago, Voodoo made this one. Exact copies.
post #383 of 524
wow that is fucked up, i knew that voodoo had been ripping jasons designs but to lie about country of origin; that's just cold.
post #384 of 524
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Originally Posted by zissou View Post
Chester Mox/Voodoo has been ripping off designs from MAKR Carry Goods for years. Word on the streets is that everything is made in China and drop shipped to the US. You couldn't pay me to use one of their products.

This is MAKR's original card case design (Voodoo ripoff). As soon as MAKR came out with this design a couple months ago, Voodoo made this one. Exact copies.

really?

source?
post #385 of 524
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Depends on the individual making the belts.
+1. I would like to add the individual making the order too. (burnishing detail) The above is the most Beautiful red moon (from SUFU) I could think of, and below is one of Scott's piece. I think they are just as awesome.
post #386 of 524
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Originally Posted by zissou View Post
Chester Mox/Voodoo has been ripping off designs from MAKR Carry Goods for years. Word on the streets is that everything is made in China and drop shipped to the US. You couldn't pay me to use one of their products.

This is MAKR's original card case design (Voodoo ripoff). As soon as MAKR came out with this design a couple months ago, Voodoo made this one. Exact copies.

Would also like more information on this.
post #387 of 524
That's all the information that I have, I'm afraid. It would be uncouth of me to advertise who mentioned it to me. Sorry to be so secretive. Buy the stuff if you want, but just the fact that they've been ripping off another designer so blatantly for so long is reason enough for me to not consider buying anything from them.
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The above is the most Beautiful red moon (from SUFU) I could think of, and below is one of Scott's piece. I think they are just as awesome.
Scott does make great stuff out of wonderful materials. In all honesty, it pains me that he puts so much work into the beautiful stitching throughout the belt, only to put the holes and buckle stitching in unevenly.
post #388 of 524
I thought everybody copied everybody else in the world of leather crafting, be it flathead-esque leather strand s-hook bracelets, makr flap wallets, other card cases, and, of course, the red-moon "inspired' wallets are what many independent leather crafters started off doing.

I'm not sure if Chester Mox can be faulted for copying, so much as taking their copying to a much more visible scale and using the exact materials makr is known for (horween).
post #389 of 524
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Originally Posted by mfrege View Post
I thought everybody copied everybody else in the world of leather crafting, be it flathead-esque leather strand s-hook bracelets, makr flap wallets, other card cases, and, of course, the red-moon "inspired' wallets are what many independent leather crafters started off doing.

I'm not sure if Chester Mox can be faulted for copying, so much as taking their copying to a much more visible scale and using the exact materials makr is known for (horween).

and charging half the price for them. if they are making the same way, then they're just exposing Makr's absurd mark up. as much as I like Makr's designs, I can't believe all that extra money goes to R&D.
post #390 of 524
A typical case when choosing between your moral values or your wallet. And one wonders why everything is made in China.
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