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Anyone else anxiously awaiting the next version of Ubuntu? I wouldn't normally start a thread just because a new Ubuntu distribution is coming out, but this is a Long Term Stable release, which is a pretty big deal. I'm excited yet flustered, because I JUST GOT Karmic tweaked to my liking after so many months, only to start all over again at the end of April edit: Any attempts to derail the thread with discussion or comparisons to other Linux distributions will not be allowed, unless I choose to participate, which I will, so nevermind about this edit.
post #2 of 66
No. Ubuntu is a steaming pile of crap. It's probably the worst distribution i've ever used. I really didn't like it during the two months I was dual-booting with it. Now that VMWare Server works on win7 64 bit, I just use that to boot a couple no-frills installations of centos when I need them. They're much more stable than ubuntu, which would invariably crash on me at least a couple times per week when I was using it a lot.
post #3 of 66
I'm in a tizzy.
post #4 of 66
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Originally Posted by GQgeek View Post
No. Ubuntu is a steaming pile of crap. It's probably the worst distribution i've ever used. I really didn't like it during the two months I was dual-booting with it. Now that VMWare Server works on win7 64 bit, I just use that to boot a couple no-frills installations of centos when I need them. They're much more stable than ubuntu, which would invariably crash on me at least a couple times per week when I was using it a lot.
Well I don't have 7 or a computer that can support it. Been using it (Ubuntu) since the end of Ibex (which I thought was terrible), but noticed steady improvement up until now. Never had any crashing probs or anything like that, at least not with any version after Ibex. The only bitch I have is that Firefox completely and utterly sucks, which is why I run Opera now. I'm not married to Ubuntu though, and would be more than happy to try another distribution that may be better. But I fear most people going off on Ubuntu like this want to recommend Slackware, Slax, Arch, Gentoo, or some distro that assumes my full time job is tinkering with Linux. I wish it was, but unfortunately I don't have the time. I switched to Linux not to look like an elite, cool dude, but because it is 1) easier to set up and use than XP, 2) faster than XP, 3) is keeping me from having to upgrade all my hardware and peripherals. I dual boot with XP now (for AnyDVD and Wordperfect), and I have FAR more driver issues trying to install XP SP3 than any version of Ubuntu. Ubuntu driver issues = 0. Win XP SP3 = 2 hours scouring the net looking for drivers, for hardware that at best, was manufactured no later than 2002.
post #5 of 66
It's neat to check up on linux every now and then, but I don't have any use for it these days.

FWIW, I installed the latest Ubuntu a couple months back and for the very first time ever it detected the ("exotic" six-year-old nvidia) video card in my spare computer. So at least some progress is being made.
post #6 of 66
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Yeah, Nvidia support is really stellar now. ATI owners seem to still be SOL though. I don't quite get "I don't have use for it these days". I use the web, office, file sharing apps, image manipulation, etc. and Ubuntu has it all and does it well.

I only have a small XP partition left for specialized apps I can't run in Wine. Like AnyDVD.
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I used to have a lot more interest in playing with the computer, but now I mostly want it to do things for me. To me Linux would now be just a clumsy, uneven version of Windows missing a few critical applications. Not worth the trouble.

For example, although it auto-detected the video card in my old computer, I still couldn't get the wireless card to work (and it's at least six years old too). Supposedly there's hacked windows drivers or some kind of emulation, but I couldn't even see the card in lspci (or whatever it's called). I didn't feel like buying another one, so that was that.
post #8 of 66
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That really sucks. Like I said, I didn't have that problem though, Ubuntu was flawless. If I did, I'd probably kick in my monitor. I've come close to doing that messing with XP. Read a lot of nice things about #crunchbang linux. Tried out the LiveCD. Total crap. Crappier than Xubuntu I daresay. Anyway, Lucid is going to be my first LTS Ubuntu release. I look forward to not having to reinstall for 3 years. Of course I will. But not because I have to, at least, not if my luck keeps up as it has with the last 3 versions.
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Well I don't have 7 or a computer that can support it. Been using it (Ubuntu) since the end of Ibex (which I thought was terrible), but noticed steady improvement up until now. Never had any crashing probs or anything like that, at least not with any version after Ibex. The only bitch I have is that Firefox completely and utterly sucks, which is why I run Opera now. I'm not married to Ubuntu though, and would be more than happy to try another distribution that may be better. But I fear most people going off on Ubuntu like this want to recommend Slackware, Slax, Arch, Gentoo, or some distro that assumes my full time job is tinkering with Linux. I wish it was, but unfortunately I don't have the time. I switched to Linux not to look like an elite, cool dude, but because it is 1) easier to set up and use than XP, 2) faster than XP, 3) is keeping me from having to upgrade all my hardware and peripherals. I dual boot with XP now (for AnyDVD and Wordperfect), and I have FAR more driver issues trying to install XP SP3 than any version of Ubuntu. Ubuntu driver issues = 0. Win XP SP3 = 2 hours scouring the net looking for drivers, for hardware that at best, was manufactured no later than 2002.
I don't like to evangelize particular linux distributions b/c different people use different distributions to meet different needs and there's little point starting what amounts to an almost religious argument. Ubuntu wouldn't be as popular as it is if it wasn't serving a need to some people. I just found it terribly buggy and unstable over the time I used it and I didn't like the UI. Ubuntu's biggest problem (and some might argue its a strength) is that it is too inclusive. There's a lot of junky drivers and other code in there that can lead to stability problems. While it has support for a lot of newer hardware, that support is frequently the source of problems. The fact that you have older hardware might actually be a good thing for you since the drivers are more mature. I run a couple different distributions for different needs (in VMs) but I do prefer the source-based distributions. I personally view linux as a server OS, a learning tool, and an environment for nerds of different types to "play" in (hacking, programming, etc). I use it for all those reasons but I don't see myself ever replacing Windows as my main machine for casual screwing around and day to day activities, if for no other reason than app support, which for me is everything from random games, to Adobe Lightroom, to Anydvd HD. That's why windows is my VMWare Server host and not linux. On that note I have to say that I AM thinking of building a dedicated ESX server some day soon. You must have a pretty old computer if you can't run XP well though... Back when you said you built your computer I was running an Athlon xp 1800 and playing games like EverQuest and DAOC and I don't really remember having many problems. XP was always pretty good in that regard. I always found that XP did require an enema once in a while (meaning full format and re-installation), but since Vista I haven't had those kinds of issues (though the user experience was lacking in other ways). I had vista on my laptop for 2 years and performance never degraded from the level of performance at the time of installation. 7 is the same. FWIW, MS is on a 5 year product cycle. So maybe it's time to upgrade? I couldn't imagine reinstalling on a 6 month product cycle. You could buy a computer that's superior in every way to what you're running now for like 400 bucks.. I've also been reading that Office 2010 is going to have a new pricing model. You'll be able to download it for free, and then incrementally pay for the features you use.
post #10 of 66
just reading up on it now. We use Ubuntu in the office, but skipped 9.10 after reading lots of teething issues etc. 10.4 sounds great though.
post #11 of 66
I'm running Gentoo on my MacBook Pro.
post #12 of 66
why would you do that?
post #13 of 66
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Ahh thanks GQ. Well it most certainly runs XP well, but after a month or two it just get wonky on me. To the point where my XP splash screen will freeze on me during bootup. No issues since Ubuntu is my primary OS and I have a small, 17 gig partitioned for XP that I only use to backup DVDs or open the occasional Wordperfect draft.

Ah, yes, I have an Athlon 1800 myself, with 2 gigs of ram.

FWIW, I love the UI. Gnome really rox my sox. Gnome 3.0 looks like it's going to be a crapfest though. I'm considering what I'm going to do then. Xfce doesn't look all that great, and I HATE KDE. Which is funny, because I tend to love KDE apps, just hate the UI.
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Is this anything like the movie "Swordfish" ?
post #15 of 66
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Is this anything like the movie "Swordfish" ?

Nope. Ubuntu is an attempt at making a Linux desktop (and netbook) operating system for the masses.

I'm sure most if not all Linux geeks would shun Ubuntu for its simplicity, etc. But I think it's great. Gnome has a pretty, easy interface. Sure, you can't do much with the GUI other than run your applications with it, but, this is Linux. If you want to tinker, you are expected to use the command line. Or download KDE desktop or just install Kubuntu....but adding all those features to the UI seems to really slow things down IMO.

I'm actually considering on my next install (Lucid Lynx in April) of scrapping my Gnome-Do Docky and Compiz cube setup and just using Gnome's default settings even.
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