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post #31 of 72
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Originally Posted by LVoer View Post
No.

I'm saying people tend not to like them for no good reason. I know plenty of people who didn't like macs because they are Apple products. I know less people who dislike macs because they used one for an extended period of time and decided to dislike them based on their personal evaluation.

Not liking it because it's an Apple product is, IMO, is a perfectly valid reason not to use one.
There are also people who don't like Windows because it's a Microsoft product.
post #32 of 72
I've got a 24" imac with a Dell 2408wfp and it's great! One thing to watch out for is "burn in" on the iMac screen. Only happens if you're working super long hours like me.
post #33 of 72
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Originally Posted by Douglas View Post
I bought a, I think, 24" iMac not all that long ago. I started a thread on it, called "Apple sucks" or something like that, because I was going through extreme frustration with it early on.

I'll just say that I give it mixed reviews. There are times when I love the Mac, and times where I really dislike it. They are not nearly as infallible as they claim. Some things work really well, some things do not, and it can be frustrating if you are used to Windows because it's not always as easy a transition as you would think. Also, for some features I just prefer the Windows interface.

They are, however, gorgeous machines and I'd go for the larger screen. The extra real estate is worth it when web browsing, viewing photos, movies, etc.

My thoughts exactly.
I do like my mac, but it's not the be-all-end-all I though it would be.

I was worried about being lumped in with all those smug, trendy mac users, but after working with a bunch of passionate PC programer types, I think PC people are equally annoying.

Iphoto sucks though.
post #34 of 72
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim View Post
Not liking it because it's an Apple product is, IMO, is a perfectly valid reason not to use one.
There are also people who don't like Windows because it's a Microsoft product.

I suppose a lot of people think like this in life.... "I don't like him because of his skin colour", "I don't like him because he's gay".

I prefer to look at the substance of a product before passing judgement.
post #35 of 72
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Originally Posted by LVoer View Post
I suppose a lot of people think like this in life.... "I don't like him because of his skin colour", "I don't like him because he's gay". I prefer to look at the substance of a product before passing judgement.
So... how many Klan members have you gotten to know? Neo-Nazis? Al-Qaeda? I'm just curious, because according to your own ill-thought out metaphor, you won't judge them by the organization they belong to - you have to get to know them as individuals and judge them as people. I just wonder if you actually believe that, or if you are just BS'ing.
post #36 of 72
while we're here, is there some sort of site/forum out there for computer users? I'd love to learn how to burn dvds on my computer etc.
post #37 of 72
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Originally Posted by ruben View Post
while we're here, is there some sort of site/forum out there for computer users? I'd love to learn how to burn dvds on my computer etc.
There are a lot, but I'm not sure I know of any that are specifically aimed at or would be very helpful to beginners. Maybe check out http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ You'll probably run into some problems deciphering the lingo, (just like you will here, if you don't know anything about clothes/shoes) so be a good citizen and use the search function. Luckily things like burning CD's is really simple to figure out, as long as you know and can explain what kind of software you have on your computer, and of course - assuming your computer is capable of burning a cd.
post #38 of 72
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim View Post


So... how many Klan members have you gotten to know? Neo-Nazis? Al-Qaeda?
I'm just curious, because according to your own ill-thought out metaphor, you won't judge them by the organization they belong to - you have to get to know them as individuals and judge them as people. I just wonder if you actually believe that, or if you are just BS'ing.

No I don't, so by your analogy it's ok not to like Apple without using one because of their inherent aversion to.....? What? Wired peripherals?

Those are organizations with well known political positions. You don't need to get to know them to know that. What part of Apple's philosophy don't you agree with?
post #39 of 72
i like my mac...cant go wrong
post #40 of 72
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Originally Posted by LVoer View Post
No I don't, so by your analogy it's ok not to like Apple without using one because of their inherent aversion to.....? What? Wired peripherals?
Their aversions to hardware options, upgrade paths, and consumer choice. Just an example, I have an aversion to OSX (and OS9). That is not the only thing that can run on an Apple PC, but I don't want to use it. Not wanting to use it, means I don't want to buy it. I don't really have a choice, now do I?
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Those are organizations with well known political positions. You don't need to get to know them to know that. What part of Apple's philosophy don't you agree with?
I'm pretty sure I've made it abundantly clear over the years. There are many aspects of Apple's "philosophy" that I find repulsive, condescending, stupid, and backwards.
post #41 of 72
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim View Post
Their aversions to hardware options, upgrade paths, and consumer choice. Just an example, I have an aversion to OSX (and OS9). That is not the only thing that can run on an Apple PC, but I don't want to use it. Not wanting to use it, means I don't want to buy it. I don't really have a choice, now do I?

My god, ha ha..., so you do have a valid reason not to like them. I'm glad we spent the last few posts going back and forth to establish you are in fact not one of the people I was talking about.

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I'm pretty sure I've made it abundantly clear over the years. There are many aspects of Apple's "philosophy" that I find repulsive, condescending, stupid, and backwards.

Ah, I'll be sure to go back and read all of your posts on the subject.
post #42 of 72
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Originally Posted by LVoer View Post
My god, ha ha..., so you do have a valid reason not to like them.
But you just said that not liking the company is not a valid reason for not liking the products... and then you inferred that I am like a racist for not liking the products because Apple is huge piece of shit company. Now I'm confused. Or you are.
post #43 of 72
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim View Post
But you just said that not liking the company is not a valid reason for not liking the products... and then you inferred that I am like a racist for not liking the products because Apple is huge piece of shit company.

Now I'm confused. Or you are.

No, I said in one my earlier posts that some people dislike the company for no good reason. They dislike Apple just because it's Apple, and never articulate any real reason why the company is bad.

Your reasons are quite valid and it's funny because back when I was into computers as a hobby I disliked Apple for similar reasons. Now I just want a computer that works all the time and doesn't crash or get viruses. That wasn't important to me before but now it is, I used to want to tinker with them all the time. I used to build and race my car too, now I just want a car that turns on and runs.

Maybe I'm getting old.
post #44 of 72
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No, I said in one my earlier posts that some people dislike the company for no good reason. They dislike Apple just because it's Apple, and never articulate any real reason why the company is bad.
Maybe they just aren't as brave as I am, and don't wish to get into an argument with someone who may or may not be a deranged Mac person.
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Originally Posted by LVoer View Post
Your reasons are quite valid and it's funny because back when I was into computers as a hobby I disliked Apple for similar reasons. Now I just want a computer that works all the time and doesn't crash or get viruses.
That describes pretty much any moderately well made computer. It has nothing to do with the brand. As for "viruses" if you have a significant problem, you must either be really important, or really dumb, cause for normal people, not getting them is as easy as not opening/downloading unknown programs and email attachments.
post #45 of 72
I like that any time or day that I check in on this thread, Tokyo Slim has the last post.
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