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Originally Posted by
dinted voice 
I am looking for a small amp to use at home, maybe at church/small settings. Any recommendations? I was looking at AC4TV and was hoping to stay in that price range. Not looking for anything too loud or too "dirty." Would like a nicer clean tone and I am partial to tubes. Thanks for any help you can give!
The guitar will be whatever my uncle doesn't mind lending me until I decide to buy one.
I like the Fender Pro Jr (although not a lot of headroom) a lot, and it can be had cheap. If that's not loud/clean enough I think the Blues Jr is ok (better than the Hot Rod stuff).
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Originally Posted by
Piobaire 
Ah, thanks.
So a question to the relative experts here. If a noob buys a Vox Valvetrix, do you really need stomp boxes or will the Vox pedal that lets you switch around tones be enough?
Depends what you're trying to do. This whole thing is about
tone. Being that you're new, your ear won't be as discerning. Best way to explain it- the fewer links in a chain the more organic the sound. All things being equal an amp with a single tone control will sound and react better than an amp with a Treble, Middle and Bass tonestack. It will feel more dynamic to the player, as additions have to be made to the circuit to account for the extra controls.
At the same time, many situations require an amp with more control than a single tone knob. So you have amps with multiple tone contols, cut controls, presence, bright switches, mid boosts, etc. This is all to change the EQ. Then you have things like master volumes and gain controls. Back in the day, to get a distorted sound out of a tube amp you would simply turn it up till it distorted, but people wanted that distorted sound at a lower volume, so the gain/master control was added. So in a modern amp we have multiple controls for the tone shaping, and additional controls to dial in how much overdrive we need.
Then you have effects, some of them (like reverb and tremolo) are built in on some amps, some are not (like delay, phase, flange, etc). What pedals do are help you achieve things that your amp won't do stock. Some of these are effects (if your amp doesn't have reverb you can use a reverb pedal), and some of these are to try and change the inherent character of the sound. You can think of them as advanced EQ. The majority of the pedals on the market are overdrive/distortion pedals. They're good for say, trying to get a Marshall sound out of your Fender. But the deeper you get (into the boutique realm) the more specific they get- trying to get your Deluxe Reverb to sound like a JTM-45. Or a tweed Deluxe. Or a Trainwrek Express. Or like a Deluxe Reverb, just turned up more than you can do at the gig/home/studio.
What was the question? Oh yeah, will you need pedals with a Valvetronix. Consider everything I just told you, then consider that the Valvetronix is an amp that
models all of the above. Think about how many
links in the chain are in the processing of that thing. So the answer is, no if you're happy with the stock tones of the Vox. Yes if you want an effect it doesn't have (such as an envelope filter or octave fuzz). And if you're not happy with the stock tones of the Vox, yes you can try and add some pedals, but at some point it's better to simply get a real amp and start from scratch. Not that I'm against modelers, I've owned and used them, but if you're getting really specific and trying to nail a sound, then you need to go with the real thing. I liken it to CGI in movies- it's close and getting closer (and might fool a lot of people), but it's simply not there yet.