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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Does anybody here have any experience with Gibson pickups? I have been going OCD and crazy over the past few days. In 2001 I bought a Les Paul new and it has the 490R & 498T pickups in the neck and bridge positions, respectively. I haven't looked at new Les Pauls in ages and I see now they have Burstbuckers 1, 2, 3 and Burstbucker Pro. I understand the difference in the mechanics of all of these. Burstbucker 1, 2, and 3 are all unpotted like the original PAF's and all have alnico 2 magnets. The unmatched winding are supposed to simulate the originals and the 1,2,3 are for output. The Pro essentially is the same thing as 1, or 2 depending on the neck, or bridge position but wax potted and a hotter alnico 5 magnet.
Here is the issue, I have never had an issue with my pickups, however I am thinking could I possibly make my guitar sound "better" by getting these newer more loved pick-ups? The only difference between the pickups that I have and the pros are matched more windings. Am I just being a nutjob?

not a nutjob at all, i personally feel you should always change stock pickups (especially those stock gibsons). i think you should be more concerned about the specific type of sound you want though. what kind of music do you play? have you played an lp with those pickups? what type of amp/pedals do you have?

try before you buy if you can. there's a ton of other guitar pickup companies worth looking into as well.
post #542 of 4643
Honestly, I don't buy the whole stock pickups are garbage idea. Gibson pickups are very good, some people use them exclusively in guitars. It is just that the ones I have were stock 10 years ago and the ones that are stock now are different. Both sets of pickups are expensive so it is not really a "quality" issue, more of preference and tonality difference, imo. I think it only really makes sense to change pickups if you buy a $300 guitar or something, not a $2,400 guitar.

I play all kinds of music honestly, there is almost nothing I don't noodle around with now and again. I am not a huge effects nerd. I used to be, but now I am more into different natural distortion and using my volume and pickup selections to overdrive the amp in different ways. I did go into Guitar Center quickly on my lunch break and I told one of the guys my issue and he gave me two Les Pauls one with my pickups and the other with the burstbucker pro. I just played clean through a fender tube amp and the immediate difference I could tell was the output, My pickups were able to drive the amp more. the second thing I noticed was increased bottom end on my pickups. The Bursbucker pros seemed thinner sounding. Not in a bad way, just different. If I rolled off the volume on the pickups that I have the sound is very, very similar. I am almost thinking that mine are probably better for control purposes with the volume knob and such, but I wasn't able to spend much time tinkering because I had to get back to work. Also, it is hard to say because I use 11 guage strings on my guitar and these that I was playing were a bit thin and flabby. Not a good situation to be comparing sounds really.
post #543 of 4643
Lost all my hearing this summer permanently, I miss playing 11-52's through tube amps, like I did as a teenager. =( Doesn't really bother me in my day to day life that much, surprisingly.
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your last post and going to Costco earlier and looking at home theater setups for my new TV that I soon realized I have no use for just reminded me of it today. Otherwise my life is pretty locked in to not having to hear anybody. It's not great, but far better than being blind or not being able to walk.
post #546 of 4643
Well, it is good that you are ok with it, but I am sorry to hear.. er.. read.shog[1].gif
post #547 of 4643
Vox showed up at my place tonight. He looked good, of course, but he sounded even better. I think he's here to stay...
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post #548 of 4643
^^what is the new vox sound like?
post #549 of 4643
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Does anybody here have any experience with Gibson pickups? I have been going OCD and crazy over the past few days. In 2001 I bought a Les Paul new and it has the 490R & 498T pickups in the neck and bridge positions, respectively. I haven't looked at new Les Pauls in ages and I see now they have Burstbuckers 1, 2, 3 and Burstbucker Pro. I understand the difference in the mechanics of all of these. Burstbucker 1, 2, and 3 are all unpotted like the original PAF's and all have alnico 2 magnets. The unmatched winding are supposed to simulate the originals and the 1,2,3 are for output. The Pro essentially is the same thing as 1, or 2 depending on the neck, or bridge position but wax potted and a hotter alnico 5 magnet.
Here is the issue, I have never had an issue with my pickups, however I am thinking could I possibly make my guitar sound "better" by getting these newer more loved pick-ups? The only difference between the pickups that I have and the pros are matched more windings. Am I just being a nutjob?

I had an old gibson sonex custom with zebra dirty fingers pickups. best high output pickups I've ever had. Liked them so much I got a pair off ebay and put them in the bridge of my SG.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gibson-1980-Zebra-Sonex-180-Neck-Humbucker-Pickup-/180718286069?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item2a13a634f5
these, but the price is way too much, think i paid 40 for the pair. noone really likes these but me, but they sound really great for natural break up.
post #550 of 4643
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Originally Posted by pocketsquareguy View Post

^^what is the new vox sound like?

It's amazing actually. It is everything from mellow and bell-like to super compressed distortion when pushed. It is very responsive to the volume control on the guitar. I pretty much have the volume at about 2 o'clock and I use my guitar's volume & pickups to go from clean to crunch and such. I might throw in a custom treble booster pedal that I have at my parent's vault (basement) in the burbs.
post #551 of 4643
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Originally Posted by poly800rock View Post

I had an old gibson sonex custom with zebra dirty fingers pickups. best high output pickups I've ever had. Liked them so much I got a pair off ebay and put them in the bridge of my SG.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gibson-1980-Zebra-Sonex-180-Neck-Humbucker-Pickup-/180718286069?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item2a13a634f5
these, but the price is way too much, think i paid 40 for the pair. noone really likes these but me, but they sound really great for natural break up.

I don't know. Some people like really hot pickups for distortion, however I like something more medium output. I think it sounds better (for a tubes) for your amp to do most of the work, not a little pickup.
post #552 of 4643
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Honestly, I don't buy the whole stock pickups are garbage idea. Gibson pickups are very good, some people use them exclusively in guitars. It is just that the ones I have were stock 10 years ago and the ones that are stock now are different. Both sets of pickups are expensive so it is not really a "quality" issue, more of preference and tonality difference, imo. I think it only really makes sense to change pickups if you buy a $300 guitar or something, not a $2,400 guitar.
I play all kinds of music honestly, there is almost nothing I don't noodle around with now and again. I am not a huge effects nerd. I used to be, but now I am more into different natural distortion and using my volume and pickup selections to overdrive the amp in different ways. I did go into Guitar Center quickly on my lunch break and I told one of the guys my issue and he gave me two Les Pauls one with my pickups and the other with the burstbucker pro. I just played clean through a fender tube amp and the immediate difference I could tell was the output, My pickups were able to drive the amp more. the second thing I noticed was increased bottom end on my pickups. The Bursbucker pros seemed thinner sounding. Not in a bad way, just different. If I rolled off the volume on the pickups that I have the sound is very, very similar. I am almost thinking that mine are probably better for control purposes with the volume knob and such, but I wasn't able to spend much time tinkering because I had to get back to work. Also, it is hard to say because I use 11 guage strings on my guitar and these that I was playing were a bit thin and flabby. Not a good situation to be comparing sounds really.

yeah the gauge definitely makes a difference, but i kinda feel that if you're not in love with the sound even with 10's, you probably won't like it with 11's. maybe if you have a favorite artist or band that covers a lot of musical ground that you like, you could check out what they use?

or if you're into more gritty experimentation, you could try swapping magnets in your pickups.
post #553 of 4643
So this is what I am going to do. I bought some used Burstbucker pros and I am going to put them in. If I don't like them I will sell them. Easy peasy.
post #554 of 4643
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Originally Posted by pocketsquareguy View Post

The prices are very low compared to a few years ago. The vintage market has really taken a hit.

1960 Les paul for 70-90k? No way.
post #555 of 4643
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Originally Posted by origenesprit View Post

1960 Les paul for 70-90k? No way.

1959 Les Paul purchased for $350,000 in 2007 was up for sale last year, the price was dropped to $190,000 and no takers. Another example, a 1953 mint Telecaster sold in 2007 for $75K, the owner is now suing the dealer who sold it to him because he went to sell it and the best he could get offered was $35,000. On the more reasonable end 1950 Martin 00-18's were selling for $3,000+ and now they are back down to $1,800 or so.
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