I have never claimed the shoes he has made for me are bespoke as you say they are MTO. Unless I am mistaken this is the Shoe Damage Report not the Ultimate Hardcore thread.
I understand others have had bespoke lasts made by Spring Line which they have given to Cliff to use, in their cases I would describe the process as bespoke.
I understand others have had bespoke lasts made by Spring Line which they have given to Cliff to use, in their cases I would describe the process as bespoke.











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