Theoretically...and to a very real degree, as well...the lower the heel the more toe spring is needed. More toe spring "anticipates" the flexing of the foot and works to minimize creasing.
The shoes above may have too much toe spring from an aesthetic or stylistic perspective but without examining them more closely and comparing them to the last, I suspect that the toe spring is well within reason.
this is part of the reason i'm rethinking HAF soles.
Just caught up with a weekly SF update! Lots of nice new shoos have come in I see.
Originally Posted by Burton
Originally Posted by forex
err,maybe after having 20-30 pairs which cover the basics, you can get anything you want? Maybe it is not to your taste but to someone else likes it? If the fit is good, shell won't make much crease so the shoes will look just as good.
My points may be put forward rather strongly, and I am not trying to change the nature of the discussion to one that is less than civil, but I don't understand the pairing. To me this is like Miller Lite and Arancini di Riso.
Wait - because you don't understand the pairing, you come up with reams of 'facts' (e.g. shell is a less dressy material so CANNOT be used in a dress shoe) to prove that someone shouldn't buy a pair of MTO shoes?
Originally Posted by Burton
Thanks. I know of PG and have read his blog. Some of it is very good and some of it is . . . well . . one man's opinion of how things should be done. I am not going to attack him and had no intention of doing that. I purchased a pair of EG Dovers in antique Edwardian because I saw them on his blog. That doesn't mean I am going to stop thinking and give up my right to an opinion (one that I believe well founded) just beause the person is an "authority."
Point 2 - Shell - well you covered it. I think some of these guys would buy their GF/W's shell thongs if they could . . and I am not sure which would actually get them off.
Point 3 - EG - Great maker of shoes and the Oundle is a nice shoe. My opinion, they should have refused the order, but you can't fault them for making a pound.
Point 4 - My dealings with Tom have been first rate and I believe the man is a class act and runs a great store. No one should take my criticisms of the shoes as a criticism of Tom or LS.
To me the shoes are the equivalent of a woman with C boobs going and getting a boob job to have DD. The Oundle is great shoe and there are creative things which you can do to make it unique. Making it out of shell is just not an improvement.
Oh, and I love the pun about the sacred horses.
Refused the order? How come no one has picked up on this - WTF? Who died and made you arbiter of taste? GTFO.
I'm getting shell cordovan made up in a sleek 2-eye derby format, does that fly in your book?