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Did my research... Meccariello indeed ... awesome... i want some icon_gu_b_slayer%5B1%5D.gif

Correct. My first pair. Looking forward to many more
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Cross post from the Bestetti thread: The shop Spiga 3 in Gothenburg has just received stock of three RTW Hand welted models from Bestetti. A burgundy wholecut on chiseled 1966 last, Maverick adelaide in dark brown on classic round 1967 last, and the Boston derby in vintage tobacco on last 1967. Think it's the first time ever that Bestetti's shoes are available for direct purchase online. Price including lasted shoe trees is 9495 SEK (€1000), or for customers outside EU who can deduct the high Swedish VAT it's 7596 SEK (€800 / $880).

 

Visited the shop yesterday and took some photos:

 

 

 

 

 


 

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Edited by j ingevaldsson - 7/31/15 at 3:38am
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Looking very nice.

Low instep?

I like his hand welted way more than the pegged ones. Blind waist?

Very compelling price......
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Looking very nice.

Low instep?

I like his hand welted way more than the pegged ones. Blind waist?

Very compelling price......

 

Instep looks higher than it is IME, it's pretty standard. He actually Blake stitch the waist on these RTW, welt and sole stitch is hand sewn. The thing that is most prominent with these compared to regular RTW shoes, also premium brands like EG, G&G or Lobb, is the extremely good arch support. Both since it's based on a bespoke last, so the last shape is much more curved inwards at the arch, and because the heel stiffener goes all the way front of the arch, almost to the ball area. It's the same with for example Hiro Yanagimachis MTO shoes, also based on bespoke last and with long heel stiffener, resulting in IMO much more comfortable shoes.

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Instep looks higher than it is IME, it's pretty standard. He actually Blake stitch the waist on these RTW, welt and sole stitch is hand sewn. The thing that is most prominent with these compared to regular RTW shoes, also premium brands like EG, G&G or Lobb, is the extremely good arch support. Both since it's based on a bespoke last, so the last shape is much more curved inwards at the arch, and because the heel stiffener goes all the way front of the arch, almost to the ball area. It's the same with for example Hiro Yanagimachis MTO shoes, also based on bespoke last and with long heel stiffener, resulting in IMO much more comfortable shoes.


is arch support a good thing or bad?

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is arch support a good thing or bad?

Good, for almost everyone.
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Good, for almost everyone.


well I am not an expert, just remembered that in some articles of "barefoot running" theory, the author claimed that modern shoes(specificly, sneakers/trainers) give too much cushion/arch support than it's good for us, dunno if there is any proof of this, would be great if someone can elaborate.

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well I am not an expert, just remembered that in some articles of "barefoot running" theory, the author claimed that modern shoes(specificly, sneakers/trainers) give too much cushion/arch support than it's good for us, dunno if there is any proof of this, would be great if someone can elaborate.

Yeah, the thing with the whole "barefoot theory" is that we don't live the same way as back in the very old days. We don't walk on soft ground but on hard asphalt and we don't go barefoot. And yes too cushioned shoes isn't necessary good, but good arch support is quite the opposite. It makes your feet less tired throughout the day and makes the feet sink and go flat less throughout the years. There's a great series with an orthopaedic doctor on feet and shoes on http://www.keikari.com/english/ which talks a bit about this stuff, can recommend it.
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Yeah, the thing with the whole "barefoot theory" is that we don't live the same way as back in the very old days. We don't walk on soft ground but on hard asphalt and we don't go barefoot. And yes too cushioned shoes isn't necessary good, but good arch support is quite the opposite. It makes your feet less tired throughout the day and makes the feet sink and go flat less throughout the years. There's a great series with an orthopaedic doctor on feet and shoes on http://www.keikari.com/english/ which talks a bit about this stuff, can recommend it.


Thanks! reading it.

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He actually Blake stitch the waist on these RTW, welt and sole stitch is hand sewn. 

First time I hear about this.

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Originally Posted by manasdirge View Post


well I am not an expert, just remembered that in some articles of "barefoot running" theory, the author claimed that modern shoes(specificly, sneakers/trainers) give too much cushion/arch support than it's good for us, dunno if there is any proof of this, would be great if someone can elaborate.

Barefoot running is great.

Cushioned soles are not, as it changes your gait significantly.

Arch support is great, as long as it doesn't over compensate. You don't necessarily want to walk with a huge bump under your arch; it will be very uncomfortable.

Oh and having lower arch is not as bad as it sounds.
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Originally Posted by j ingevaldsson View Post

Instep looks higher than it is IME, it's pretty standard. He actually Blake stitch the waist on these RTW, welt and sole stitch is hand sewn. The thing that is most prominent with these compared to regular RTW shoes, also premium brands like EG, G&G or Lobb, is the extremely good arch support. Both since it's based on a bespoke last, so the last shape is much more curved inwards at the arch, and because the heel stiffener goes all the way front of the arch, almost to the ball area. It's the same with for example Hiro Yanagimachis MTO shoes, also based on bespoke last and with long heel stiffener, resulting in IMO much more comfortable shoes.

Are they welted chest to chest or waist to waist? SC are welted waist to waist despite they ended up pegging at the waist without using those waist welt at all.

How's their arch support vs SC?
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First time I hear about this.

I haven't seen it IRL before either, though I've seen pics of Marcell Mrsan of Koronya trying it. To only glue the waist is pretty common, but to Blake stitch it is obviously not.
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

Barefoot running is great.

Cushioned soles are not, as it changes your gait significantly.

Arch support is great, as long as it doesn't over compensate. You don't necessarily want to walk with a huge bump under your arch; it will be very uncomfortable.

Oh and having lower arch is not as bad as it sounds.

Whether or not barefoot running is great or not I'm not going to get into, so many different opinions about that, both from experts and those who tried it.

Yes too much arch support for someone with very low arch is probably not the most comfortable.

All people have different feet, and different heights of archs, so you're right that low archs doesn't necessarily means problem. But when they get too flat, especially when the feet are flattening themselves, it's not the best.
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

Are they welted chest to chest or waist to waist? SC are welted waist to waist despite they ended up pegging at the waist without using those waist welt at all.

How's their arch support vs SC?

Like he does with his pegged waists he do the welt all the way back to the heel. This means that at the waist he probably almost must stitch the Blake stitch over the welt seam, I guess.

I don't remember how SC:s arch support is (was a while since I tried them, don't own shoes from them) but know they have good support too. Do think that Riccardos stiffener goes further front though.
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post


Barefoot running is great.

Cushioned soles are not, as it changes your gait significantly.

Arch support is great, as long as it doesn't over compensate. You don't necessarily want to walk with a huge bump under your arch; it will be very uncomfortable.

Oh and having lower arch is not as bad as it sounds.

that is relieving to hear~ never noticed the low arch issue until I bought some dress shoes, but guess I will be fine~

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