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post #17926 of 20673
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The figure of 600,000 you are quoting is from 1989. African elehpants are listed as vulnerable while Asian elephants are still listed as endangered.
You talk about a cow in which "human care" has been invested. If you can call  gestation crates and the practice of shooting them up full of antibiotics, as caring.
Next to the food industry, the fashion industry is the worst offender of animal (not to mention human) rights abuses. Iam a huge fashion phile and love high end design as much as anyone else on this forum. Designers like Stella McCartney and Mat&Nat have proven that it is indeed possible to enjoy high quality fashion without resorting to bloodbaths and peeling the skin off a newly born calf.
So you see, this thread is exactly the place to talk about this subject. There is a lot more to fashion than just posting pics of cute shoes and asking what people think of them.
Even from a demand/supply point of view, the resource being used needs to be sustainable. Stripping every other living creature of its skin, will leave us to face the ultimate reality of human leather, since that is all there will be left.

what exactly is high end design you are referring to? also any suggestions on usage of animal hides after the animal has been harvested, so to say? perhaps the whole world should go vegetarian to end the bloodbaths eh? unfortunately, plants are also living things, so we must also end the chloropyhll baths? perhaps humans should make themselves extinct?
post #17927 of 20673
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Originally Posted by RogerP View Post

We don't see a lot of Anthony Cleverley here on the forum. My contribution:

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wow...fantastic...very nice

post #17928 of 20673
Thank you Gianni.
post #17929 of 20673
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Originally Posted by RogerP View Post

Thank you Gianni.

But thanks to you to show the unique beauty

post #17930 of 20673
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what exactly is high end design you are referring to? also any suggestions on usage of animal hides after the animal has been harvested, so to say? perhaps the whole world should go vegetarian to end the bloodbaths eh? unfortunately, plants are also living things, so we must also end the chloropyhll baths? perhaps humans should make themselves extinct?

 

Why should animal hides be used for anything? What do you do with people hides when they are gone? As far as the whole world going vegetarian goes, do you realize that regardless of whether we eat plants or animals, we are still consuming plant matter. Directly by being a vegetarian, indirectly by being a carnivore. It takes 5 times as much energy and earth's resources to grow fodder to provide for animals, so humans can consume them.

 

Also unlike animals, plants do not have a central nervous system. An animal is a sentient being capable of feeling fear and hurt.

 

But this is a fashion forum, not a food one. Regardless of whether or not animals are used for food, it is a well proven fact that we no longer need to use animals products in the fashion industry.With technological advances there are just as many ways of getting the same quality from faux leather. And for those who still want the real thing, hang tight, victimless leather is on its way (Google it!)

 

And if you seriously believe that all the leather and fur used in the fashion industry, comes only from animals that died a natural death, I have a bridge to sell you.

post #17931 of 20673
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Originally Posted by Desiette View Post

Why should animal hides be used for anything? What do you do with people hides when they are gone? As far as the whole world going vegetarian goes, do you realize that regardless of whether we eat plants or animals, we are still consuming plant matter. Directly by being a vegetarian, indirectly by being a carnivore. It takes 5 times as much energy and earth's resources to grow fodder to provide for animals, so humans can consume them.

Also unlike animals, plants do not have a central nervous system. An animal is a sentient being capable of feeling fear and hurt.

But this is a fashion forum, not a food one. Regardless of whether or not animals are used for food, it is a well proven fact that we no longer need to use animals products in the fashion industry.With technological advances there are just as many ways of getting the same quality from faux leather. And for those who still want the real thing, hang tight, victimless leather is on its way (Google it!)

And if you seriously believe that all the leather and fur used in the fashion industry, comes only from animals that died a natural death, I have a bridge to sell you.


Who in this thread cares? Please move this to another thread.
post #17932 of 20673
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Originally Posted by jerrybrowne View Post


Who in this thread cares? Please move this to another thread.

+ 1,000,000

post #17933 of 20673
Roger, that's the AC Cameron, yes?
post #17934 of 20673
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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

Roger, that's the AC Cameron, yes?

Yessir.

post #17935 of 20673
Cool, I suspect we raided the same source (LS) fistbump.gif

Is it more brown or burgundy? It appears it could be either
post #17936 of 20673
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Who in this thread cares? Please move this to another thread.

“Science may have found a cure for most evils; but it has found no remedy for the worst of them all -- the apathy of human beings.”
― Helen Keller

 

I won't be posting on this subject anymore. But next time you make a fashion purchase, please spare a moment and consider that all you are buying is the horrific pain and terror of an innocent animal.

post #17937 of 20673
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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

Cool, I suspect we raided the same source (LS) fistbump.gif

Is it more brown or burgundy? It appears it could be either

 

It's a hard colour to peg - definitely more burgundy than brown, but with a hint of aubergine.

post #17938 of 20673

Roger and HRoi,  what size do you wear in AC in comparison to say EG888?

post #17939 of 20673
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Originally Posted by Desiette View Post

“Science may have found a cure for most evils; but it has found no remedy for the worst of them all -- the apathy of human beings.”

― Helen Keller

I won't be posting on this subject anymore. But next time you make a fashion purchase, please spare a moment and consider that all you are buying is the horrific pain and terror of an innocent animal.
Ain't nobody got time for that
post #17940 of 20673
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Originally Posted by Desiette View Post

“Science may have found a cure for most evils; but it has found no remedy for the worst of them all -- the apathy of human beings.”

― Helen Keller

I won't be posting on this subject anymore. But next time you make a fashion purchase, please spare a moment and consider that all you are buying is the horrific pain and terror of an innocent animal.

The way I see it people will still eat meat even if we don't use the leather e.g. for shoes. If the animal still is killed I'd rather see we use as much of it as possible, instead of throwing away a bi-product like leather (because as you know, all the calf leather, which is standard for quality shoes, are remnants from the meat industry).

And the thing is that when buying high quality shoes, we automatically buy leather from animals that have had a relatively good life. Excellent leather don't come from animals being treated badly, living a stressful life and so on, it comes from those treated with care, who grows slowly and who get to spend their lives outside as much as possible. So you are kind of in the wrong place, if anything it's the people buying the cheap, glued leather shoes for $30 you should go blame. And they aren't on SF.
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