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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

^I find that true for most shoes under about the $800 mark. They use pretty standard and seemingly thin outsoles. You can always tell when they aren't oak bark tanned because they get very slick and slippery. Oak bark soles get a kind of "nap" on them almost like suede. It helps a lot for traction, and honestly, way less slippery than dianites.

 

I think that's a fair assessment.  It isn't only AE that uses outsoles that are below traditional oak bark tanned (like Baker's) or Redenbach quality.

 

The good news with AE, at least, is that you can have them put on a Redenbach sole when they are sent in for recrafting (assuming you use their recrafting service).  Of course you can always have an aftermarket cobbler do what too.

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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

^I find that true for most shoes under about the $800 mark. They use pretty standard and seemingly thin outsoles. You can always tell when they aren't oak bark tanned because they get very slick and slippery. Oak bark soles get a kind of "nap" on them almost like suede. It helps a lot for traction, and honestly, way less slippery than dianites.

That's been my experience, as well, both on my feet and in shoes I've made for others.

But Rendenbch and Baker aren't the only good tannages.

Baker is exceptional and pure oak bark. That said, they seem a little soft (to my taste). The insole shoulders are without peer however.

Rendenbach is very good and mostly valona (acorn caps) tanned but too brittle for my druthers.

I've taken to using a Belgian chestnut tannage from Manseur (sp?) that is beautifully coloured, finishes up just as nicely and is"just right" in terms of temper. And best of all available here in the US...without a brand on the grain surface.

Parenthetically...and I've said this before...some of the "slippery" issues with any soling material is the way a person walks and where they carry their weight. Ask any fly fisherman who wades dangerous rivers, if you don't have your weight squarely over your feet before settling on them you're in for a dunking. That said, I've actually had moments when I thought...esp. in very cold weather...that if you walk slowly and deliberately, good leather outsoles are superior to any rubber on ice. Stick your tongue on a patch of cold ice and you'll know why.

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Cross-post from Vass - some Red Cognac porn on the U-last with goyser stitching:

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love the color

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Like the goyser stitch on that
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post #17689 of 19234
Edward Green Berkeley Black E202.

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Love the Berkeley.
Will you start adding punched cap toes now that you own so many plain cap toes?
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Originally Posted by Louis XIV View Post

Love the Berkeley.
Will you start adding punched cap toes now that you own so many plain cap toes?

thanks mate, I currently have 3 punch cap toes, I should add them to the black cap toe thread as they are a variation of the classic.
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I'd definitely love to see them it that epic thread of yours.
What are the two different pairs, maybe C&J Belgrave and JL Philip II?
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Nice Berkleys, wurger.

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nah, more budget styles from Alfred Sargent, WIlson and Moore.
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cheers, Roger.
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I've also taken notice of the same phenomenon, with exception to C&J where I find both their standard line and their handgrade line to wear pretty well on the soles. Not sure what they use.
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Looking forward to wearing these in summer. Anyone guess the last?

I thought 337 as they are made under license to the famous McAfee firm.

No shots of the soles to see if they are hand grades until they arrive.








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Those would look great for a Halloween party.

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Love that colour combo meister - very Boardwalk Empire. I'd rock those well into the fall.
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We don't see a lot of Anthony Cleverley here on the forum. My contribution:

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