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Originally Posted by bboysdontcryy View Post

Allow me to take you guys on a yearlong adventure for MTO shoes. I was in the market for a pair of shoes and my friend was raving about Bestetti and after inspecting a couple of his shoes, I figured I’d use him.

I sent him this picture of a pair of Japanese shoes and told him I wanted my shoes to look similar except that he should obviate the eyelets and have it made in brown. I also asked that my initials be punched in the front of the shoes, in place of the regular medallions.

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Determining the size was perhaps the most harrowing out of the entire process. He had me put on shoes whose sizing system he was familiar with – Cleverley, John Lobb, Crockett & Jones, Vass and Meermin – and tell him my size in them, how I felt in them, and send him pictures of the shoes so he could, by looking at the flex-points and bulges, ascertain the size I’d need.

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I also provided him with actual measurements.
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Fast-forward 5 months later, and I didn’t have any updates. I was getting a little hot under my collar and at the same time, beside myself with anticipation.

I sent him an email and requested for pictures of the work in progress. I was mildly disturbed when I realized that he didn’t make them to my specification. The language barrier had come in the way. He had punched ‘broguing’ details all around the shoes, whilst I had only requested them to be punched in the front.
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TBC .....
Couldn't you just fly to Milan once to start the whole process?
post #17252 of 19370
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Originally Posted by JubeiSpiegel View Post

Some humble AE Vinci's, from their retired Seven Collection:



I love plain toes...

nice shoes!! beautiful shine!!!

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Originally Posted by bboysdontcryy View Post




 

this pair turned out really nice! i liked them with the brogueing too!!  i have seen the pic's after the initials are punched  at your blog and they are beautiful!! icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

great choice!!

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I was a little resigned -- it doesn't look that bad with the broguing -- but brought that up with him. To his credit, he decided to remake it. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)




He then sent me pictures of the shoes that were semi-complete –





I also reminded him about the monogram/initials as medallion, and he provided me with a sample that I didn’t quite like. Supposed to be “C L’



I then proceeded to go check out the various fonts and decide which I liked. I did a digital mock-up of how I wanted my initials to look and sent them to him.





TBC .... (sorry, need time to type)
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Very nice shoe my friend.

In fact, I have something similar to your pair in the processes. It is the same oxford design but without the medallion, in mid or dark brown alligator.

I will let you guys know how it turns out.
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Continuation ... (sorry for the long lag time. Busy).

Yesterday, he sent me pictures of the shoes with the initials punched into them





He said that he’d painstakingly hand-polish the shoes (anybody who has spent time polishing shoes will know that to get a gleam throughout the entire pair of shoes is no small feat, and will take several hours).







I reminded him I wanted flat laces.

The completed shoes, ready for dispatch:















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Thanks guys. I'm pretty impressed at the outcome myself. Was a little worried about the monogram medallion but I must say they look pretty sweet. My schedule doesn't allow me to fly to Milan to get fit for a pair of shoes. Not right now.

I'll update on whether providing those measurements will help ensure a good fit. I'm really crossing my fingers that they will.

Still a little stumped how shoe polish makes all the difference.
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Beautiful pair of shoes!!
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

Beautiful pair of shoes!!

Thanks. Have a question. Out of curiosity, is it notably more difficult to make the heel cap/counter (whatever it's called) shaped this way?

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Thanks. Have a question. Out of curiosity, is it notably more difficult to make the heel cap/counter (whatever it's called) shaped this way?

 

No, it's just how you shape the last. But since peoples heels isn't shaped like that, it's rarely done. Bestetti makes it for looks, not for fit. But on the test shoes I had home for my Novecento order, made on a last with similar heel shape, it wasn't uncomfortable at all altough the lower part of the heel didn't touch the lining at all. Don't know if he does anything more tof the inner heel on the final shoes, might be so, then it might be a more complicated procedure.

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Thanks. Have a question. Out of curiosity, is it notably more difficult to make the heel cap/counter (whatever it's called) shaped this way?

 

That notch between the waist and the heel stack is an detail that requires extra complications.  Not seen in many RTW brands or even bespoke shoes.

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Originally Posted by j ingevaldsson View Post

 

No, it's just how you shape the last. But since peoples heels isn't shaped like that, it's rarely done. Bestetti makes it for looks, not for fit. But on the test shoes I had home for my Novecento order, made on a last with similar heel shape, it wasn't uncomfortable at all altough the lower part of the heel didn't touch the lining at all. Don't know if he does anything more tof the inner heel on the final shoes, might be so, then it might be a more complicated procedure.

 

The small heel and beveled waist does leave much less room for shoemakers to work with.  As for the contour, its design.

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Originally Posted by chogall View Post
 

That notch between the waist and the heel stack is an detail that requires extra complications.  Not seen in many RTW brands or even bespoke shoes.

 

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The small heel and beveled waist does leave much less room for shoemakers to work with.  As for the contour, its design.

 

I was assuming that he meant the contour of the heel, hence my response. Regarding the notch between heel and waist, Alfred Sargent made that on their Handgrade line a couple of years ago, which was a positive surprise for me. But from pictures I've seen of recent pairs they seem to have quit doing it.

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Such wonderful craftsmanship, but that medallion really annoys me.

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Originally Posted by j ingevaldsson View Post

But since peoples heels isn't shaped like that, it's rarely done. Bestetti makes it for looks, not for fit.

I wonder if this "for looks, not for fit" applies equally to the instep on Bestetti's shoes. Whenever I see one of his shoes (in pictures, never seen them in the flesh), I'm always taken aback by that enormous instep that hovers over the vamp like the rock over Gibraltar. I do not know how many people are there, who have the foot that can actually fill-out the instep.

Certainly I would never be able to muster such an erection (of the instep, of course).
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Originally Posted by bboysdontcryy View Post

Continuation ... (sorry for the long lag time. Busy).

Yesterday, he sent me pictures of the shoes with the initials punched into them

Very nice pair of shoes love and I the colour, please do let us know how they fit? Enjoy and thank you for sharing.
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Originally Posted by bengal-stripe View Post


I wonder if this "for looks, not for fit" applies equally to the instep on Bestetti's shoes. Whenever I see one of his shoes (in pictures, never seen them in the flesh), I'm always taken aback by that enormous instep that hovers over the vamp like the rock over Gibraltar. I do not know how many people are there, who have the foot that can actually fill-out the instep.

Certainly I would never be able to muster such an erection (of the instep, of course).

 

Hehe yes, I've been noticing this myself and was a bit worried about it, wasn't sure how much he would change existing lasts on the Novecento line (which is sort of semi-bespoke, for those who wonders). On my test shoes though the instep was adjusted accordingly and fit my feet well, so no problems there. Here's a pic of them from the side:

 

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