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post #15796 of 19555
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That beautiful toecap! Cleverly genius.
post #15797 of 19555
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fing02[1].gif the king of lazyman shoes
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That beautiful toecap! Cleverly genius.

Thanks for the kind words, the toe has been burnished by myself, sadly the photos doesn't show the shine I did.
It is a very delicate shoe, only for town walk in good weather condition.

The leather colour is very similar to John Lobb's Misty calf. Again the picture fails to show that.
post #15798 of 19555
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Thanks for the kind words, the toe has been burnished by myself, sadly the photos doesn't show the shine I did.
It is a very delicate shoe, only for town walk in good weather condition.

The leather colour is very similar to John Lobb's Misty calf. Again the picture fails to show that.

Stunning!

Would be nice to see the colour in a different light!

I am waiting for a pair of Bodies in that exakt colour and my recollection from the store is that the colour is a lot lighter than the photos
post #15799 of 19555
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Originally Posted by TehBunny View Post

How far into your shoes do your feet go; or how far into the toe cap do your feet go? A picture from someone's shoe archive with a quick line drawn on MS paint would be fantastic!
When I see some of the aggressive lasts one shoes I think how? But having short wide feet with tiny heels means I can't wear many beautiful shoes....
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Originally Posted by Louis XIV View Post

http://www.newsaboutshoes.com/showthread.php?t=55
In the first picture, the red boot is the perfect fit, in the second picture the blue boot.
Your toes, not your forefoot, but only your toes, should sit in the toebox like in the second picture of the following link
http://www.newsaboutshoes.de/showpost.php?p=9670&postcount=5

Too bad the News about Shoes forum is not in English. The information looks good but could be misunderstood...esp. the second link.

Providing the shoes are the correct length...heel to ball...for your feet, (and that's really the most critical fit of all) the amount of room beyond the toes is nearly (within reason) immaterial. Yes, a shoe can be too short in the forepart and yes, it can be too long, but generally speaking all that is required is sufficient room. Of course, that addresses both the length and height of the toe stiffener.

The real problem is that some lasts are designed with extra length. Modern lasts in particular. Classic lasts and classic fit always assumed three full sizes (or one-eleventh of the foot length) as the correct clearance between the longest toe and the inside of the shoe, for a medium-round toed shoe. And "the rule of thumb"...literally...was always that there should be clearance, inside the wide-round toed shoe, equal to the width of a man's thumb (roughly two full sizes)--nothing less--and for narrower toed shoes, relatively more.

Some chisel-toe lasts, today, are as much as four full sizes or perhaps even five full sizes longer than the "stick" or length of the foot (LOF) . There is no problem with this as long as the toe stiffener comes back far enough to allow the foot to control the forepart of the shoe.

The other issue is that while "toebox" is perfectly good terminology...among shoemakers...for the toe stiffener, it can be misinterpreted by customers or non-shoemakers. If a shoe has a toe cap (as in the second link) it does not necessarily define the limits of the toe stiffener or the toe box. IOW, just because your toes are under the toe cap doesn't mean that they are in the toe box...they probably are but it's not guaranteed.

Bottom line is that for any given shoe from any given reputable maker, the chances are very, very good that if you are fit properly...esp. heel to ball...your toes, and where they are relative to the end of the shoe, are not to worry about.

If you're properly fit and it's still a problem, you need to be custom fit--MTM perhaps.

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Edited by DWFII - 3/25/13 at 9:08am
post #15800 of 19555
DWFII, your post does make a lot of sense, as usual, thanks for sharing your knowledgewith us!

As Mrs. Ehlers was trained at Lobb Ltd St James, I guess her English is quite fluent and she will most definitely not lack all of the vocabulary I do.
If you would be interested, I could ask her if she'd be interested in translating some of the most informative posts of the sadly mostly inactive forum NAS into English.
post #15801 of 19555
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Originally Posted by Louis XIV View Post

DWFII, your post does make a lot of sense, as usual, thanks for sharing your knowledgewith us!

As Mrs. Ehlers was trained at Lobb Ltd St James, I guess her English is quite fluent and she will most definitely not lack all of the vocabulary I do.
If you would be interested, I could ask her if she'd be interested in translating some of the most informative posts of the sadly mostly inactive forum NAS into English.

I've always thought that there was a lot of good information on NAS. Whenever I see a link to a post over there, I follow it just for the informative illustrations. I'd be a member there if it were in English. At the bottom left of the NAS forum is a window/link for presumably an English translation but sadly it doesn't work.

In one of your links (second?) there's an illustration of what happens when a foot is misfit heel to ball. I'm guessing the accompanying text would be really interesting to members on SF if not the the entire shoe-centric world.
post #15802 of 19555
Please excuse my English and the lack of vocabulary, but I will try my best to translate it for you.

Hier ein Fuß in einem Schuh mit einem zu niedrigen Absatz proportinonal zur Ballenlinie.
Here a foot in a shoe with too low a heel proportional to the ball line

Die Zehen liegen bereits überspannt im Schuh.
The toes already lie in the shoe overstrung.

Das Gelenk (Schanier) zwischen der Großen Zehe und dem Mittelfuß wird unnatürlich aufgebogen.
The joint between the big toe and metatarsus is being bent unnaturally.

Dadurch stimmen die Gelenkverbindungen aller folgenden, mehr oder weniger beweglichen, Knochen nicht mehr, so verschieben sich langfristig alle Knochen, und die Gelenke werden über- und fehlbelastet.
Therefore the joints of all following, more or less mobile bones, no longer go together.
Long-term all bones become displaced and the joints are being over- and fail loaded.


Auch die Ferse steht falsch, deutlich nach hinten geneigt.
(Betrachten Sie die Fersenrundung und den Schuhschluß, erspart viele postings)
Also the heel is fail-positioned, noticeably sloped backwards.
(Have a look at the curve of the heel and the shoe closing, makes reduntant a lot of postings)


Selbst der Unterschenkel steht dadurch im falschen Winkel und dadurch auch das Knie. ( durchgedrückt zum Ausgleich.)
Even the lower leg stands in the wrong angle and therefore also the knee.
(Extruded (not sure about the vocable) to compensate)




Hier erkennt man deutlich die Schäden die durch das Tragen von schlecht stehenden Schuhen langfristig entstehen.
Here the long-term damage from wearing badly balanced/fitting shoes becomes obvious.

Die Zehen sind verkrümmt, der Vorfuß ( Zehen und Mittelfuß) ist aufgespreizt, der einst gewölbte Mittelfuß (Längsgewölbe) ist flach und die Ferse abgesunken.
The toes are crooked, the forefoot (toes and metatarsus) are spread, the once arched metatarsus (longitudinal arch) is flat and the heel sunken.

Nun ist der Fuß platt und unfähig seine federnde und dadurch Scherkräfte aufnehmende Funktion beim Gehen zu leisten, das muß jetzt das Knie übernehmen und alle weiteren Gelenke. ( Knie/Becken/ Rücken/Kopf)
Now the foot is flat and unable to perform his elastic and therefore shearing forces absorbing function while walking, this function now has to be taken on by the knee and all other joints (knee, hip, back, head).

Bitte be/achten Sie auch Ihre Füße, nicht nur Ihre Schuhe.
Please too care for your feet, not only your shoes.



Both pictures and original text are property of Mrs. Hendrikje Ehlers of POSH Berlin and the forum newsaboutshoes.com
http://www.newsaboutshoes.com/showthread.php?t=55
post #15803 of 19555
Thank you...and Mrs. Hendrikje Ehlers...for the information. Most of this I understood but I have frankly run across so many people here on SF that are skeptical of the consequences of wearing improperly fit shoes that I suspect the illustration might open some eyes.
post #15804 of 19555
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Originally Posted by Louis XIV View Post

Please excuse my English and the lack of vocabulary, but I will try my best to translate it for you.

Excellent stuff here
post #15805 of 19555
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Originally Posted by nutcracker View Post

Excellent stuff here

+1, thank you Louis
post #15806 of 19555
Here are my lovely shoes. Genuine 100% corrected grain, retro-fitted with brown John Lobb laces. They may appear unassuming in these photographs; in the street they turn heads. Envy and enjoy. PM me if you want more details, price etc.

May I present Mephisto icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif :

mephisto_zps897cf60d.jpeg

Lear
post #15807 of 19555
^^

Those are pretty pimp. If you hadn't told me that only the laces were John Lobb I would have guessed the shoes to be John Lobb.
post #15808 of 19555
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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post

^^

Those are pretty pimp. If you hadn't told me that only the laces were John Lobb I would have guessed the shoes to be John Lobb.

I know what you mean Edmorel. From a certain angle it's hard to tell the difference. But really, these quick pics don't do them justice. I'm putting together a series of better shots for those interested. So far you're the only name on that draft PM list. Could be the messaging system is playing up.

I'll get back to you mate

Lear
post #15809 of 19555
Glorious indeed, it looks like the insoles have developed a lovely green patina. Wear in good health, friend...
post #15810 of 19555
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Originally Posted by Lear View Post

mephisto_zps897cf60d.jpeg

I am sure the shoes are comfortable and generous, but it is far from good looking. There is virtually no waist, and the ugly toe shape design. It is clear that the upper leather is low grade. I don't know how much will help by using John Lobb laces.
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