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Originally Posted by fritzl View Post

nice story. rule of thumb.- the curve of the wingtip should compliment the quarters, oops. tell me more about it?
glad you like this shit from an historian pov and not what shoemaking is all about. just sayin...
please report.
regards

Many people don't care for the Windsor; on the other hand, others do and someone liked it enough to have the style replicated. So one man's shit is another man's shinola. . . or something like that.

Regarding the curve of the wingtip, that rule of thumb might be so - but isn't this style more commonly referred to as a U-tip and not a wingtip? Isn't it sufficiently different from a wingtip to make that rule of thumb somwhat irrelevant here? The rule of thumb for avocados equates softness with ripeness, but is that applicable to rhubarb?

In any event, I get your overall point - you dont like the style.
post #12842 of 19137
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Originally Posted by Burton View Post

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I know that I have already posted a few of the teaser pics which Chay sent me, but I would like to share the story of these shoes with you. Earlier in the year, Chay and I were discussing different styles of shoes and things we thought could be cool or interesting. In a series of quick e-mails Chay and I talked about the Benson and the legacy of the shoe. I love the look, but wanted something slightly different.
Chay suggested a dark "pin grain" and low and behold the final product exceeded my expectations. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I love this type of Monk because it truly captures a vintage feel wtihout appearing dated or costumey. Lovely design and wonderfully executed. Thanks, Chay.
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I hope you like them.

pin grain is fantastic stuff. it ages so gracefully.

i saw a fantastic make up at materna in black. something to die for.
post #12843 of 19137
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Originally Posted by PhiloVance View Post

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Many people don't care for the Windsor; on the other hand, others do and someone liked it enough to have the style replicated. So one man's shit is another man's shinola. . . or something like that.
Regarding the curve of the wingtip, that rule of thumb might be so - but isn't this style more commonly referred to as a U-tip and not a wingtip? Isn't it sufficiently different from a wingtip to make that rule of thumb somwhat irrelevant here? Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
The rule of thumb for avocados equates softness with ripeness, but is that applicable to rhubarb?
In any event, I get your overall point - you dont like the style.

this is not exaxctly the truth. i'm not a die hard u-tip afficionado, though.

when i look at a pair of EG, independent of their decade, i have somewhat high expectations. this also comes from the way people talk about them.

tbh, i wasn't aware of this rule as i see the big picture, when looking at shoes.
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anecdote from three years ago:
i was with two friends. one was running a small mto operation for suits and shirts, also organizing complimentary shoes for special clients at that time. one guy received a pair, he had ordered and i was given them to make a comment. the "seller" asked me: do you see the fault? hmmh, which fault is he talking..., dang. well, the curve of the wingtip, he replied. gosh, i never looked at this, but you're right...

actually, i took a short look at my own shoes at home. i have only a few wingtips, though. no fault, as i expected.
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back to our little story. looking at the old catalogue pic, you can see the curve on the sandringham is "correct", while the windsor is a little off. burton's shoes also do not have this issue. iirc, the few vass u-tips posted a while ago, didn't have it either, while the LL special edition has it. crazy world, imo.

so, maybe a real expert like e.g. mr. frommer or somebody with more historical background on english shoe styles and their development like e.g. bengal, can chime in and show us the light.
post #12844 of 19137
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Originally Posted by PhiloVance View Post

AS did a great job. Its reminiscent of the London Lounge special edition Windsor that Tony Gaziano did for them a while back:
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I think the Windsor was a standard EG model in the early '80s.Bengal Stripe has posted a page in the past from an EG mid-eighties catalogue - featuring the Windsor:
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I just happen to have a pair made by EG for Wildsmith, but I also have a pair made for Nordstrom in '85. I eventually had that pair refurbished by EG (pics here):
http://uptowndandy.blogspot.com/2011/07/vintage-edward-greens-windsor-redux.html
but here's a picture of the original Nordstrom stamp on the insole:
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PV,

I believe it was your refurb pics which inspired my discussion with Chay. I love the model and I am going to ask him to make me a pair in black and burgundy.
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^^^Burton, that is great to hear! Glad you liked the style - Chay really outdid himself with those.
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love the this thistle broguing. the finishing on that pair is drool worthy
post #12847 of 19137
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Originally Posted by kolecho View Post

I think the U tip that AS did is too square, for lack of a better term. I much prefer the one EG did for LL.

Kolecho different strokes. I chose the last and hence the shape of the toe is mine. As a fan of both EG and AS shoes (and an owner of multiple pairs of each) I see little difference, if any, between the EGs and AS handgrades and like EG there are a number of things in a MTO handgrade which can be changed to suit you personally.
post #12848 of 19137
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Originally Posted by PhiloVance View Post

^^^Burton, that is great to hear! Glad you liked the style - Chay really outdid himself with those.


I own the EG Sandringham as well and love that. Would like a pair of the Cardiff--I know, I have a problem.
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That's a nice collection you've got going - Sandringham is a lovely shoe. What color?

I recently picked up a pair of Braylons for RL by EG in dark oak, which I think is similar to the Cardiff - minus the medallion:

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post #12850 of 19137
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Originally Posted by PhiloVance View Post

That's a nice collection you've got going - Sandringham is a lovely shoe. What color?
I recently picked up a pair of Braylons for RL by EG in dark oak, which I think is similar to the Cardiff - minus the medallion:
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^^ Nice. I may like it better without the medallion. Mine are actually a spectator like version of the Sandringham. They are bauxite calf and a tan country calf.

I posted pics a while ago and caused a little uproar.

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post #12851 of 19137
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Originally Posted by Burton View Post

Chay suggested a dark "pin grain" and low and behold the final product exceeded my expectations.

i almost forgot, that i have a picture of mine. hanjoy.

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Originally Posted by fritzl View Post

Unfortunately this shoe had to suffer a lot. That's life.
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post #12852 of 19137
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Originally Posted by Burton View Post

^^ Nice. I may like it better without the medallion. Mine are actually a spectator like version of the Sandringham. They are bauxite calf and a tan country calf.
I posted pics a while ago and caused a little uproar.

Very nice! What was the uproar about?

Speaking of spectators, I think these are actually Cardiffs - RLPL Whitaker by EG:

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post #12853 of 19137
Fritzl - those look beautiful but what did you do to them? Those cuts along the front look painful cry.gif
post #12854 of 19137
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Originally Posted by PhiloVance View Post

Fritzl - those look beautiful but what did you do to them? Those cuts along the front look painful cry.gif

well, they have toned down meanwhile. i didn't watch my steps carefully... biggrin.gif

glad you like them.
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Originally Posted by PhiloVance View Post

Very nice! What was the uproar about? Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Speaking of spectators, I think these are actually Cardiffs - RLPL Whitaker by EG:
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guess? the curve... peepwall[1].gif
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