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Originally Posted by SpooPoker View Post

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Worn today!
And in my mailbox when I got home, a one-off Horween shell cap by DC Lewis.
Scuse the shit iPhone shot, better ones coming over the weekend.
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awesome additions to your vast collection
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A picture's worth a thousand words- Goodyear welted shoes, long may they live.  Chelsea in Antique Chestnut  from EG, and and a 2 eye from JLP.

 

Every shoe-maker uses glue, every shoemaker relies on machines in construction.  It's a question of degree, and for any one shoe I'll  weigh up shape and style and materials and finishing and construction.  Construction is important, but not more  important than the appearance  -  especially re  posting in a shoe pron thread.   

 

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Originally Posted by bengal-stripe View Post


Neither does that include blocking and cutting of the insole, preparing the holdfast, holing (poking the holes prior to stitching), preparing the welt etc, It will take a skilled shoemaker something like six hours to welt a pair of shoes. We are talking about not cutting any corners, using about 4 stitches/inch (more where the toe turns the corner) and welting from breast to breast (not ball to ball).
An English "maker", a shoemaker doing the bottom work and nothing else and doing it for many years, can make somewhere between two and three pairs per week. If he is working to 'West-end standard', he will not use any mechanical devices for the bottom work, not even a rotating sanding wheel.

 

 

 

6 hrs explains the substantial price difference and the reason Goodyear welted is more affordable.  In the UK  this translates to 250 - 350 pounds on the wholesale price.  Confirms that it's not possible to sell a hand welted shoe at the same price as Goodyear, all other things equal.   Vass, the only exception I know of, is able to hand-welt at a comparable price to say EG RTW because of the low Florint and historically low wages in Hungary.   Ironic that globalization gets us the Vass, but localization keeps em affordable.  They won't stay that way.ffffuuuu.gif

 

I love the elegance of EG, and it doesn't bother me that the welt, like many other parts of all shoes, are glued.    I hear what a previous poster, sorry, I forget who, said about 'in matters of taste let there be no dispute'.  I say baloney.   There is such a thing as bad taste.   I know, cos I've been looking at this goddam thread recently.

 

If 'taste doesn't matter' is really your view perhaps a clothing forum is not for you, because that's exactly what  SF is  -  a debate about which clothes look better, and are in better taste.     

 

How the clothes are constructed is secondary to how they look.  It really isn't a case of 'your taste is as valid as mine'-  your taste is simply not as refined if you prefer the look of the ubiquitous black square-toed clown shoe or a boxy black  polyester suit.    And there's an increasing number of square-toed clown shoes and their equivalents in this thread.

 

 I don't want to censor people, (altho racist remarks about Asians r facepalm.gif)  but it's clear that some of the contributors just don't get what the thread's about, and don't appreciate that in a forum like this there are plenty of other places to post the kind of shoes you're passionate about.  If that's being a clothing snob or elitist I'm happy to admit it, and in return I'd say that claiming that hand-welted shoes are ipso facto superior is no less a form of snobbery, no less elitist.  

 

I'm not going to be hypocritical and pretend I came to SF because I wanted to know more about how clothes are made.  I came here because I like how some clothes look and I want to share info and ideas about that.  And that's true for most of the people on this forum, and lurking the thread.    It's Styleforum -   not  Cordwainerforum or Tailorforum  -  because it's about the look, the surface, the shine, the sheen, the superficial, the appearance, the groove, the shadow, the sprez in all its glory.

 

It  just so happens that the clothes I like to look at most are frequently well-constructed, and that construction is sometimes even 'by hand'.      And what matters about the 'by hand' is that it usually means better fit, which =  better look.  That doesn't mean hand-made clothes are superior.  It's a bonus, I prefer it, I love the mystique and aura of it   -   but it's no deal breaker.  So roll out the EG, and the G&G, and the JLP and the Vass, cos they are the seks  and I wanna look at shoes I want to look at.

 

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todays report, brought to you via nick @ bespoke england
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moar pics in the G&G thread smile.gif

 

IS bringing the pics!  damn that's a nice choice of shoe-  so envious.  They are waay cool.


Edited by Pliny - 4/25/12 at 12:56am
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post #11749 of 20756
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  There is such a thing as bad taste.   I know, cos I've been looking at this goddam thread recently.
If 'taste doesn't matter' is really your view perhaps a clothing forum is not for you,

Within all that lies the proclamation, "I WILL BE THE TRUE JUDGE OF GOOD TASTE!!"

To the rest, fine. To this???

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WILL HE EVER JUST STOP????????????????????????????????

What was that, maybe 20 posts and it was OVER. PLEASE just post pics and stop insulting other people.
post #11750 of 20756
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IS bringing the pics!  damn that's a nice choice of shoe-  so envious.  They are waay cool.

thanks man. email nick and grab a pair smile.gif
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A recent hand-rye update to the Reverse calf Trickers Eatons.

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For sale:
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post #11752 of 20756
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Worn today!

And in my mailbox when I got home, a one-off Horween shell cap by DC Lewis.
Scuse the shit iPhone shot, better ones coming over the weekend.
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

todays report, brought to you via nick @ bespoke england
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moar pics in the G&G thread smile.gif

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post #11753 of 20756
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Seriously, I dont understand all the bile being spewed at Mac, if you don't like his style that's fine, but it's a legitimate personal style and he does it well. It's not like he's throwing a bunch of Amjack pics on the board and trashing other peoples style choices. A spirit of de gustibus non est disputandum should govern these discussions, certainly state your opinion, and state likes and dislikes, but don't be a dick. If you want to be a dick go to the CE thread and have at it.

This is the whole point but about 3 individuals have been allowed to run riot over this thread leaving seething bad vibes and insults in their trail. Frankly they should have been disciplined by the moderators instead of being allowed to continue on their inane little frolic. Now they have targetted another victim for a bullying/ kicking session. I have had enough now and am going to take this up with the mods.
post #11754 of 20756
very good nice shoes. O like this shoes. where to find it? can i buy it online?
post #11755 of 20756
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Worn today!

look great! with the trousers, they look JUST like a great pair of black cap dub monks... a true staple business shoe, i think. congrats.
post #11756 of 20756
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alright gents, you habe waited long enough. prepare yourself for a lot of shoe pr0n bounce2.gif
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and for the reveal........
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If there is only going to be pics of one pair of actual shoe damage to report done right per page, this is how you do it!

WTG Stitch.

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Pliny View Post

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A picture's worth a thousand words- Goodyear welted shoes, long may they live.  Chelsea in Antique Chestnut  from EG, and and a 2 eye from JLP.

Every shoe-maker uses glue, every shoemaker relies on machines in construction.  It's a question of degree, and for any one shoe I'll  weigh up shape and style and materials and finishing and construction.  Construction is important, but not more  important than the appearance  -  especially re  posting in a shoe pron thread.   




6 hrs explains the substantial price difference and the reason Goodyear welted is more affordable.  In the UK  this translates to 250 - 350 pounds on the wholesale price.  Confirms that it's not possible to sell a hand welted shoe at the same price as Goodyear, all other things equal.   Vass, the only exception I know of, is able to hand-welt at a comparable price to say EG RTW because of the low Florint and historically low wages in Hungary.   Ironic that globalization gets us the Vass, but localization keeps em affordable.  They won't stay that way.ffffuuuu.gif

I love the elegance of EG, and it doesn't bother me that the welt, like many other parts of all shoes, are glued.    I hear what a previous poster, sorry, I forget who, said about 'in matters of taste let there be no dispute'.  I say baloney.   There is such a thing as bad taste.   I know, cos I've been looking at this goddam thread recently.

If 'taste doesn't matter' is really your view perhaps a clothing forum is not for you, because that's exactly what  SF is  -  a debate about which clothes look better, and are in better taste.     

How the clothes are constructed is secondary to how they look.  It really isn't a case of 'your taste is as valid as mine'-  your taste is simply not as refined if you prefer the look of the ubiquitous black square-toed clown shoe or a boxy black  polyester suit.    And there's an increasing number of square-toed clown shoes and their equivalents in this thread.

 I don't want to censor people, (altho racist remarks about Asians r facepalm.gif )  but it's clear that some of the contributors just don't get what the thread's about, and don't appreciate that in a forum like this there are plenty of other places to post the kind of shoes you're passionate about.  If that's being a clothing snob or elitist I'm happy to admit it, and in return I'd say that claiming that hand-welted shoes are ipso facto superior is no less a form of snobbery, no less elitist.  

I'm not going to be hypocritical and pretend I came to SF because I wanted to know more about how clothes are made.  I came here because I like how some clothes look and I want to share info and ideas about that.  And that's true for most of the people on this forum, and lurking the thread.    It's Styleforum -   not  Cordwainerforum or Tailorforum  -  because it's about the look, the surface, the shine, the sheen, the superficial, the appearance, the groove, the shadow, the sprez in all its glory.

It  just so happens that the clothes I like to look at most are frequently well-constructed, and that construction is sometimes even 'by hand'.      And what matters about the 'by hand' is that it usually means better fit, which =  better look.  That doesn't mean hand-made clothes are superior.  It's a bonus, I prefer it, I love the mystique and aura of it   -   but it's no deal breaker.  So roll out the EG, and the G&G, and the JLP and the Vass, cos they are the seks  and I wanna look at shoes I want to look at.

(end of teacha.gif   as u were)


IS bringing the pics!  damn that's a nice choice of shoe-  so envious.  They are waay cool.

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^ LOL!
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I'm laughing so hard now in the office for that picture patrickBOOTH, thanks!

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very good nice shoes. O like this shoes. where to find it? can i buy it online?

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If there is only going to be pics of one pair of actual shoe damage to report done right per page, this is how you do it!
WTG Stitch.
Thanks!
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awesome nore, thanks for the requote baby! thanks for the love.
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