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post #11161 of 19148
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Originally Posted by isshinryu101 View Post


You are an interesting man. This is one of hundreds of different styles manufactured by the maker. I could just as easily find styles by ANY modern maker, no matter what the reputation, with some models that not everyone would like. HOWEVER, I have a feeling that SF is becoming a haven for Brand Whores. Re-brand ANY style shoe (under the G&G or EG moniker), and it's an instant hit here. Why such fear of Vintage Shoes? They can't hurt you.


 cross purposes here-    .. point is  nobody but an enthusiast (or peeps w lotsa $'s)  is going to buy a shoe like that Norweger you posted at the retail price they would have to set to cover  manufacturing costs.  We're talking about an American Co here, not Hungarian.  

Now that's not me saying the shoe is bad, that's just a fact of the market.

 

Second, only an enthusiast would care whether the shoe is hand welted or hand lasted.  To survive in the quality shoe biz the manufacturer has to offer something extra-  wonderful finishes and lasts, like Lobb + EG + Materna + G&G + Berluti etc that cater to people who want to buy a shoe that's mebe not so perfectly constructed but says about the wearer that he's a man of exquisite taste and has an appreciation of beautiful hand-made (or all but hand-made) things.      And that strategy is working for those outfits right now. 

 

.. and about what shoes are posted in this thread-   IMO there are objective standards of what looks good, and that's why until recently this thread has been dominated by pics of Lobb, EG, G&G etc   and not pics of Florsheim or Allen Edmonds.. insert mass market brand of choice

 

I felt a bit uneasy when u started posting because vintage shoes from the 40s and 50s are a different look to the dominant trend in the thread.  To be clear-  those shoes simply don't look as good.  And IMO that's not subjective.

 

And people who buy vintage shoes are buying them for different reasons than the people who buy G&G etc   But for me it's not a deal-breaker.

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argyles otc
post #11163 of 19148
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Originally Posted by NORE View Post

See:
uhoh.gif How did he know??
WONDERFUL VINTAGE SHOES that either don't fit me or are looking for a new home!!!
Vintage Shoes Shangri-La

You're kidding, right? How does anyone know about anything? I saw the shoes, was fascinated that (some) of the shoes were in such good condition after all these years, seemed like he had a nice hobby and I decided to contact him. It wasn't like he was a guy selling fake watches on the street corner. I don't remember your alias but maybe you got banned for a congenital condition. Let it go.
post #11164 of 19148
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Originally Posted by Pliny View Post



 cross purposes here-    .. point is  nobody but an enthusiast (or peeps w lotsa $'s)  is going to buy a shoe like that Norweger you posted at the retail price they would have to set to cover  manufacturing costs.  We're talking about an American Co here, not Hungarian.  
Now that's not me saying the shoe is bad, that's just a fact of the market.

Second, only an enthusiast would care whether the shoe is hand welted or hand lasted.  To survive in the quality shoe biz the manufacturer has to offer something extra-  wonderful finishes and lasts, like Lobb + EG + Materna + G&G + Berluti etc that cater to people who want to buy a shoe that's mebe not so perfectly constructed but says about the wearer that he's a man of exquisite taste and has an appreciation of beautiful hand-made (or all but hand-made) things.      And that strategy is working for those outfits right now. 

This is true, but tbh i think the Foster and sons one looks just as good as the EG split toes.

On the objective part, I disagree on two fronts. First, different shoes suit different aesthetics. Corthay shoes would look terrible with washed 501s. A chunky longwing looks good.

Secondly, it's a bit naive to think that our tastes are not influenced by our environment - the forum, current fashion, everything we're exposed to.

At the moment MC is exposed to a certain cut of suit and a certain style of shoe. There are other cuts of suit, other styles of shoes. Unstructured unpadded shoulders are not the be all and end all. Neither are sleek, balmoral style shoes.
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post #11166 of 19148
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Originally Posted by Pliny View Post



 cross purposes here-    .. point is  nobody but an enthusiast (or peeps w lotsa $'s)  is going to buy a shoe like that Norweger you posted at the retail price they would have to set to cover  manufacturing costs.  We're talking about an American Co here, not Hungarian.  
Now that's not me saying the shoe is bad, that's just a fact of the market.

Second, only an enthusiast would care whether the shoe is hand welted or hand lasted.  To survive in the quality shoe biz the manufacturer has to offer something extra-  wonderful finishes and lasts, like Lobb + EG + Materna + G&G + Berluti etc that cater to people who want to buy a shoe that's mebe not so perfectly constructed but says about the wearer that he's a man of exquisite taste and has an appreciation of beautiful hand-made (or all but hand-made) things.      And that strategy is working for those outfits right now. 

.. and about what shoes are posted in this thread-   IMO there are objective standards of what looks good, and that's why until recently this thread has been dominated by pics of Lobb, EG, G&G etc   and not pics of Florsheim or Allen Edmonds.. insert mass market brand of choice

I felt a bit uneasy when u started posting because vintage shoes from the 40s and 50s are a different look to the dominant trend in the thread.  To be clear-  those shoes simply don't look as good.  And IMO that's not subjective.

And people who buy vintage shoes are buying them for different reasons than the people who buy G&G etc   But for me it's not a deal-breaker.

the more you fight, the deeper you fall into my clutches. Soon, you will be mine as well!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

(OK, NOW I've had a coupla scotches)
post #11167 of 19148
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Originally Posted by hendrix View Post


This is true, but tbh i think the Foster and sons one looks just as good as the EG split toes.
On the objective part, I disagree on two fronts. First, different shoes suit different aesthetics. Corthay shoes would look terrible with washed 501s. A chunky longwing looks good.
Secondly, it's a bit naive to think that our tastes are not influenced by our environment - the forum, current fashion, everything we're exposed to.
At the moment MC is exposed to a certain cut of suit and a certain style of shoe. There are other cuts of suit, other styles of shoes. Unstructured unpadded shoulders are not the be all and end all. Neither are sleek, balmoral style shoes.

 

 

u welcome to think that -  but doesn't change that the Fosters don't fit the intent of this pron thread, which is the most awsm in men's dress shoes.  I even wonder whether those Fosters would have made the cut back in the day-  I'm sure there were sleeker shoes on offer.

 

(and again, not dissing them, but u got to call a thing a thing)


 


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Originally Posted by isshinryu101 View Post


the more you fight, the deeper you fall into my clutches. Soon, you will be mine as well!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
(OK, NOW I've had a coupla scotches)


lol  yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh No  plain.gif

 

 

post #11168 of 19148
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Originally Posted by banis View Post

Have you seen those? smile.gif

wow, what are these? great combo
post #11169 of 19148
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Originally Posted by mcarthur View Post

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love the color combo. not a fan of the u-tip design but this pair looks nice
post #11170 of 19148
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Originally Posted by Pliny View Post


u welcome to think that -  but doesn't change that the Fosters don't fit the intent of this pron thread, which is the most awsm in men's dress shoes.  I even wonder whether those Fosters would have made the cut back in the day-  I'm sure there were sleeker shoes on offer.

(and again, not dissing them, but u got to call a thing a thing)



Honestly I find it interesting that you think that this (bar the laces): Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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is any less appealing than any of these: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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I mean, it's one thing to call a spade a spade, but what am i missing here?

Also, is this thread purely for sleek shoes? did i miss the memo there too?
post #11171 of 19148
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Originally Posted by PhiloVance View Post

Has anyone thought of just starting a "vintage shoe porn" thread? Or does one already exist? Perhaps this might satisfy the porn purists - I for one dont mind either way and wouldn't mind checking into another thread that is vintage shoes all-day everyday.

Personally, I would love it if they removed the vintage shoes from this thread. I am not a fan of gilf pron. Sorry just not my taste.
post #11172 of 19148
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Originally Posted by hendrix View Post

Honestly I find it interesting that you think that this (bar the laces): Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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is any less appealing than any of these: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
263
I mean, it's one thing to call a spade sole a spade sole , but they are ugly either way.
Also, is this thread purely for sleek shoes? did i miss the memo there too?
Yes you missed the memo.

FTFY.
post #11173 of 19148
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Originally Posted by NORE View Post

DW, not pB plain.gif
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Anyway, I can't help but think anyone buying 70 year-old shoes can get much use out of them except to post pics on a forum. Unless, of course, they were stored in climate controlled environments much like garage queens.

You are talking directly out of your rectum and being provocative. Neither is necessary. Questions in the guise of serious intent but with an ulterior motive of disharmony on a good thread is not the way to go. If you are short on entertainment go watch television.
Edited by meister - 4/10/12 at 10:00pm
post #11174 of 19148
pffft, glad i missed nothing. so(short memo) nore is right and the "shoe lovers" are wrong? i can live with that...
post #11175 of 19148
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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

wow, what are these? great combo
Vass MTO - cigar cordovan and medium brown suede. Check Vass thread.
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