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Flying Monkey, where would you wear something like the bright purple or bright green suits? Unless you work as a magical choclatier, I feel like the opportunities are very, very limited.

I am a professor (in the social sciences), I lecture in a university and I do international comparative research. In my university, and in most academic settings, I can wear whatever I want. I would wear suits like this at conferences, meetings, to lecture in, whatever. And I would enjoy it. I would be happy wearing them, and other people would enjoy it too - for whatever reasons, I don't mind. I already do wear things that no-one else wears in my job and I get nothing but good feedback - it even helps my teaching ratings from students, not that this is the reason I do it. I wouldn't wear these when I am off doing the research I do - interviewing senior government officials, or corporate executives or police, for example - in those situations I would wear something that draws no particular attention to itself at all, but would still fit and be of good quality - in most cases, a grey 2-piece suit, or a simple wool or linen jacket and tie (or even no tie, or simply shirt and trousers, depending on the cultural norms of whichever country and city I was in). And of course I dress far differently still when wandering the streets of cities in Japan, or working in poor communities, like the favelas in Brazil, where I have also done research. Given my work, I'm probably more conscious than many people of the diversity of what is 'appropriate' in clothing - I have to be.

What I am arguing against is the kind of broad generalizations that certain people seem to feel they have to make when confronted with examples of something that's been part of a long tradition in male style, but that are outside their own particular comfort zone and the mainstream of SF MC: 'no-one can wear that' - or references to 'the real world' or 'real people' as if suddenly, instead of a rather small interest group of elitist obsessives (which we are), we have become a broad constituency of ordinary Joe Six-Packs confronted with something even stranger and more elitist. The same mechanism goes on in reactions to these things as people confronted by anything we don't understand. We get defensive and suspicisous. The honest response would simply be to say, 'I couldn't wear this', or 'I don't feel that I would be comfortable in this'. Certainly we all make our own aesthetic judgements, but the all-out dismissal and exaggeration says more about our own limitations, if we were being honest with ourselves. Funnily enough, I found myself doing exactly the same thing when confronted by a particular forum character recently, and I've been thinking about my own reaction in this case in the same way.

Apologies for the long and serious response, but I hope this makes sense.

Well said! bigstar[1].gif
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That's awesome. 

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nothing new on this thread
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What is this seemingly Neapolitan fixation with clip on braces? All the more bizarre when surely their suits are bespoke seen as they work in the trade? An easily avoidable way to ruin a good look.
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What is this seemingly Neapolitan fixation with clip on braces? All the more bizarre when surely their suits are bespoke seen as they work in the trade? An easily avoidable way to ruin a good look.

Agreed, and I don't understand it, either.

I've noticed Ethan and at least one of the other Armoury people wearing clip-on braces like that recently and I think that it looks a bit odd. Still, de gustibus non est disputandem and all that...
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I hope they're making fun of one of their colleagues who stood by them once, or something like that.. Don't really see the appeal of clip-ons other than to stir up a mess in the sartorial debate, soon we'll be seeing book binder shoes and polyester ties worn ironically by the sartorial elite.


Got to keep changing it up, making the bucks, you know?

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Clip-on braces have been a a bit more visible recently IIRC; they're probably cueing off that. Though in the cases I'm thinking of, they were used either in more casual and fashion-forward looks (eg with jeans, and sometimes left hanging), not with otherwise pretty traditional suits & trousers. I can sort of see a visual argument for clip-ons from a design/fashion perspective in certain looks, though I think even this trend is starting to work its way out of the system now. With more traditional suits, not so much...

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What is this seemingly Neapolitan fixation with clip on braces? All the more bizarre when surely their suits are bespoke seen as they work in the trade? An easily avoidable way to ruin a good look.

It's an eff you with a side of eff your life and a cornbread muffin on the side.

It's like "everything down to my boxers is sprezzed out ridiculous with handmade buttonholes but I use clip-ons just because...and my trousers have internal buttons to accommodate braces (with crow's foot stitching) but I STILL don't use proper braces so don't even ask".

Sprezzwatch prediction...next trend out of Napoli:

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Clip-on braces have been a a bit more visible recently IIRC; they're probably cueing off that. Though in the cases I'm thinking of, they were used either in more casual and fashion-forward looks (eg with jeans, and sometimes left hanging)

Absolutely. The store Hot Topics, which, for your non-Murkins, sells 'punk rock' gear to kids who listen to Justin Bieber, has had this look on their shelves since like 2002:

http://www.hottopic.com/hottopic/Accessories/BandanasScarvesSuspenders//Black+Suspenders-288018.jsp
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Vox admiring his sick Mina Adamo stash...

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Absolutely. The store Hot Topics, which, for your non-Murkins, sells 'punk rock' gear to kids who listen to Justin Bieber, has had this look on their shelves since like 2002:
http://www.hottopic.com/hottopic/Accessories/BandanasScarvesSuspenders//Black+Suspenders-288018.jsp

Don't you mean Hedi Slimane DH SS06...or have I gone too SW&D for you?
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Vox admiring his sick Mina Adamo stash...

Is Vox having a midlife crisis?
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Why? Because he's wearing Lanvin?
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