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post #76 of 86
2/27/10 at 9:26am
every wave of immigration to Australia has brought a proportionate response from the people who were there before the boats docked. Anti Chinese sentiment in the gold rushes. The Italians, Greeks of my father's generation, and later the Iron Blockers Come the 70s and 80s, enter the Asians. We hated them when I was growing up. The 90s, Lebs aplenty. While I am long gone, whenever I head back, I mostly hear people complaining about Africans these days....so I am guessing they are next in line. It typically takes a generation or two to play itself in...then the next wave comes.
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post #77 of 86
2/27/10 at 9:54am
yes, thank you educating the ill-informed.
i'm an 'australian' of irish-scots and polish-austrian descent.
2 grandparents came over from war torn Poland after WW2. and they actually were meant to transfer over to Canada, but then there was a problem and they had to settle in Australia.

it seems to me, that these people who always assume all australians are convits and like sports and all the other typical cliches etc are actually very blind. what sort of society created these convicts anyway ? old merry povety stricken england as well as their oppression on ireland
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post #78 of 86
2/27/10 at 9:54am
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Can't say enough how much I disagree. Seriously, that would be a recipe for economic stagnation. The Swiss/French debates have been exceptionally repellent in my view, and not at all a model to follow. How are you going to enforce belief? Punish people if they break the law, encourage civic participation, and go from there. By and large, immigrants add a lot to society, and the change they bring is generally good.

I agree with your point that immigrants add a lot to society, but i don't agree with letting in and encouraging the growth of certain groups.

How would the introduction of Sharia law be classified as a "change for good" in Australia? Do you like seeing women enslaved in full body burqas? Or how about some home grown terrorist cells? Did you hear about the 5 convicted here in Sydney for plotting to blow up Holsworthy army base?

I can do without these sorts of people in my country.....they are not an asset but a long term liability.
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post #79 of 86
2/27/10 at 10:02am
In a way i admire the Bloc Quebecois for wanting to protect their heritage, language, culture and traditions from outside influences.

I think parties like that are desperately needed in Anglophone Canada, Australia.

The UK has the Independence Party which i predict will get stronger and stronger as people get fed up with being sold out by the major parties.
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post #80 of 86
2/27/10 at 10:07am
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I think parties like that are desperately needed in Anglophone Canada, Australia.

One Nation perhaps?

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post #81 of 86
2/27/10 at 10:32am
Well speaking as an englishman it has no comparison,no matter where your from,if England once ruled or invaded,we dislike them all equally,we don't like anyone in particular,but that being said.......... is a good thing because there is no bias or hate involved just the way we are!! lol
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post #82 of 86
2/27/10 at 11:43am
I scanned through this thread quickly but considering the original poster's question, are any of the blokes who replied even from UK (or even England)?

I just found it rather amusing it was all Canadians and Australians being self-conscious about how their "mother" country viewed them.

(oh wait, one person just posted above!)
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post #83 of 86
2/27/10 at 12:24pm
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One Nation perhaps?




Though I read recently that Ms. Hansen has given-up on Australia and is moving to the England, where she hopes her unique brand of fish n' chips soaked in vinegar, race hate, ignorance and anglophilia will find a wider audience.
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post #84 of 86
2/27/10 at 12:24pm
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I agree with your point that immigrants add a lot to society, but i don't agree with letting in and encouraging the growth of certain groups.

How would the introduction of Sharia law be classified as a "change for good" in Australia? Do you like seeing women enslaved in full body burqas? Or how about some home grown terrorist cells? Did you hear about the 5 convicted here in Sydney for plotting to blow up Holsworthy army base?

I can do without these sorts of people in my country.....they are not an asset but a long term liability.

Very few muslim immigrants want to bring Sharia law into the country they immigrate to. AFAIK, the only way it has been proposed in Canada is as a form dispute resolution outside of the legal system. The amount of muslims that wear a full burqa is probably even smaller, at least in Canada, and the Canadian Muslim Congress opposes it.

And seriously, terrorism is a fact of life, you can't eliminate it by blocking immigration by people from certain areas of the world. I'd say the best way to make sure vulnerable young people don't get radicalized is provide good education, job training, and job opportunities.
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post #85 of 86
2/27/10 at 2:31pm
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I think everyone likes them. Not the french canadians though.

Speaks the truth.
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post #86 of 86
2/28/10 at 5:19am
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I scanned through this thread quickly but considering the original poster's question, are any of the blokes who replied even from UK (or even England)?

I just found it rather amusing it was all Canadians and Australians being self-conscious about how their "mother" country viewed them.

(oh wait, one person just posted above!)

I'm Australian, also with a UK passport, have worked in England for nearly a decade and am married to a Pom, so I have an up-close view of English attitudes towards Australia - which youngscientist described very well on the first page as "a bunch of drunken racist convicts who too frequently beat us at sports". Basically equal parts derision and affection which is about as fond as the English get of anyone.


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Originally Posted by Simon Templar View Post
I agree with your point that immigrants add a lot to society, but i don't agree with letting in and encouraging the growth of certain groups.

How would the introduction of Sharia law be classified as a "change for good" in Australia? Do you like seeing women enslaved in full body burqas? Or how about some home grown terrorist cells? Did you hear about the 5 convicted here in Sydney for plotting to blow up Holsworthy army base?

I can do without these sorts of people in my country.....they are not an asset but a long term liability.

I agree with keeping immigration relatively selective, but as pointed out you can't obstruct the growth of terrorism with immigration laws. Encouraging participation in mainstream society is important - I don't think that's been done very well in the UK with certain groups and there are longstanding issues because of it. Australia is a well-integrated multicultural society by comparison with the UK (as is Canada), in my experience at least.
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