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post #61 of 92
Anyone have an idea of where one can watch this on the internet?
post #62 of 92
I find the show very compelling ... all of the views you have pointed out can be said for most any entreprenuer ... he micro manages, lacks financial savvy, lacks objectivity, needs better managers around him, etc.

These are traits of many founders. The fact that his product is luxury menswear is interesting to us, but the show really could be a b-school case study. Way back when, I actually had a class very much like it.
post #63 of 92
entrepreneur = lack of financial savvy ?
post #64 of 92
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Originally Posted by Get Smart
I was hoping that one investor would reveal if his suit was made in England or Italy when he was quizzing Ozwald on it.

haha it was probably made in China...

anyway, yes i agree with everyone that Boateng does need some help with the less creative side of his business. he seems like a big picture person ("Armani" inspiration) but needs some smart people around him to execute these big picture ideas in every day detail.

i liked in the last episode how they interviewed tracy reese at the beginning of the show - actually was wishing they had more of her, b/c she provided some interesting perspective. mark ecko was a presence as well - i liked seeing how the his dynamics of his role on the show changed from a mere commentator to someone who was actually taking a meeting with Boateng to consider financial partnership, etc. that makes it much more personal as to what Ecko says about Boateng's potential successes and failures. they have such different style in terms of design as well as business models, i wonder how they even got together in the first place? did i miss any other designers who were interviewed/featured?
post #65 of 92
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Originally Posted by koobalicious
i wonder how they even got together in the first place? did i miss any other designers who were interviewed/featured?

They've had Ecko making comments throughout the first few episodes. No other designers tho.
post #66 of 92
Interesting how dismayed Oz sounded when he found out Macy's was interested in his line, but not Saks. I'm sure Saks remembers their previous attempt at a relationship with Oz in the late 90s, and not too fondly.

Couldnt imagine seeing OB at Macys, unless it was his diffusion O-Z line which sucks the dogs bollocks.
post #67 of 92
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Originally Posted by Get Smart
Interesting how dismayed Oz sounded when he found out Macy's was interested in his line, but not Saks. I'm sure Saks remembers their previous attempt at a relationship with Oz in the late 90s, and not too fondly.

Couldnt imagine seeing OB at Macys, unless it was his diffusion O-Z line which sucks the dogs bollocks.
I believe he has at least three RTW lines -- O-Z, Boateng and Bespoke Couture (yes, that's the name of a RTW line). Perhaps Macy's could sell Boateng.

Anyway, not sure why Bloomingdales, in the same Federated Group, wouldn't bite. They need a flashy Brit designer -- Saks has Duncan Quinn and RJ, Neimans has the Paul Smith and whatnot, Barneys has most of them...
post #68 of 92
I was also surprised that he seemed disappointed that Macy's was interested. No, they're not NM or Saks, but it is massive exposure. There are Macy's stores everywhere and more are being re-named as Macy's since the big buy-outs.

But why then was he sooo excited about the Miller Beer thing? Jeez, talk about an odd pairing. Miller beer drinkers are not his target demographic.

That said, I think the show is kinda boring. The more I watch it, the more I don't give a rat's ass about him. He seems like he'd be an interesting guy to know and I think working in the industry on the business side could be very interesting, but in the grand scheme of things there is a lot of "drama" here that is just not worth worrying over. But I'll probably keep watching it because I'm weak and addicted to tv.

b
post #69 of 92
I've seen "bespoke couture" suits, and they were not very impressive and very fused.

!luc
post #70 of 92
I love Ozwald's clothes, but as a guy over 6' and over 200 lbs, his suits are a bit too fitted for my physique (44 L, 36 W). And the colors are a bit much for daily wear, although I love the linings and other touches with buttonholes and the like. His shirts fit me nicely. I just wish the clothes were more accessible in the US. Then again, with my first child on the way, I should probably save that money for college.
post #71 of 92
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Originally Posted by RJman
I believe he has at least three RTW lines -- O-Z, Boateng and Bespoke Couture (yes, that's the name of a RTW line). Perhaps Macy's could sell Boateng.

right, actually his middle-road line is called "Ozwald Boateng Savile Row" with "Bespoke Coutoure" being his top tier rtw line. I have a suit from both the SavRow and BesCout lines and while I like them both a lot, their full retail price is exhorbitant since, as Luc mentioned, even his 'bespoke coutoure' line is fused, which is a travesty at that pricepoint. But they fit me very well and I was able to get both suits for about $200 ea.

Yea, him and Miller beer is like Paris Hilton being the new spokesperson for Walmart.
post #72 of 92
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I find the show interesting because I like to know how these businesses are run (or not) and I happen to like many of his designs. I'd definitely take a look at his stuff if he ever opens a shop here.

This week's epi is sitting on my TiVo, so I don't know what happens, but I guess I am still a little surprised at how business un-saavy he is, given that he's had a successful company going in the UK and overseas for some time now.
post #73 of 92
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Originally Posted by GreyFlannelMan
I find the show interesting because I like to know how these businesses are run (or not) and I happen to like many of his designs. I'd definitely take a look at his stuff if he ever opens a shop here.

This week's epi is sitting on my TiVo, so I don't know what happens, but I guess I am still a little surprised at how business un-saavy he is, given that he's had a successful company going in the UK and overseas for some time now.

Just goes to illustrate certain differences between US and UK business. As an example, what works over in the UK may not necessarily work here. This has happened to Mr Boateng back in the 1990's with Saks. There are too many sociological and ideological differences for any coherent consistency. I have experienced this personally in business. But it does depend on the industry you're in.
post #74 of 92
It seems that his combination of style, quality and price are at a very odd and off-putting intersection. My he will get all this under control in the future. It's not clear that the buzz is helping him.
post #75 of 92
I couldn't believe that he really wanted to add leather to the beer bottle.
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