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post #16 of 28
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Originally Posted by Sator
oh yes I forgot about that one. BBQ sauce??? There isn't anything really fancy here that I'm aware of. At every barbeque I've ever been to it's just the really ordinary stuff they sell at the supermarket I'm afraid....
yeah thats got me stumped too
post #17 of 28
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Originally Posted by Sator
I know another ex-colleague of Alex Kabbaz's who can do a bespoke shirt with very nice Italian or Egyptian cottons for around 105 Euros and no minimum order. You will get a far better deal going bespoke where the exchange rate favours you heavily rather than buying from the usual boutiques in touristy areas with high profile names selling stuff from Europe that is a lot more expensive and often lower quality. Interested?

Bespoke shirts for 105€ would definitely be interesting, but I'll only be in Sydney 10 days (during which I also have to do some work). Would that be enough time? More details? (I've been thinking about a suit, but 2200€ is at least twice as much as I could afford right now.)

As far as the BBQ sauce goes, yeah, I think my GF had a specific brand in mind (although it's slipped my mind (again) to ask her what it was); I suppose I'll have to figure this one out myself before I leave.
post #18 of 28
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Originally Posted by AmInAm
Bespoke shirts for 105€ would definitely be interesting, but I'll only be in Sydney 10 days (during which I also have to do some work). Would that be enough time? More details? (I've been thinking about a suit, but 2200€ is at least twice as much as I could afford right now.) As far as the BBQ sauce goes, yeah, I think my GF had a specific brand in mind (although it's slipped my mind (again) to ask her what it was); I suppose I'll have to figure this one out myself before I leave.
The shirtmaker is Charles Nakhle. As mentioned before Charles is an old colleague and countryman of Alex Kabbaz. Nakhle Shirtmakers \t\t\t\t \t69 Phillip St Parramatta 2150 \t(02) 9633 4696 Part of the reason he is cheaper is because he is a bit far out from the city centre where the overheads are lower than a boutique in The Rocks. The bespoke shirtmakers in the city centre charge twice as much. You will have to travel 45 minutes from Central railway station. You can also start out from Wynyard Station or Town Hall. Get off at Parramatta and make your way to the Crown Plaza Hotel (a taxi from Parramatta may be the easiest way if time is at a premium). http://www.ichotelsgroup.com/h/d/cp/160/en/hd/SYDPS?& If you cross the street from the hotel at the pedestrian crossing you will be standing right in front of the shop. Last week Charles showed me a Brioni shirt someone had brought in to have tailored. We looked over it carefully and it was clearly inferior in most aspects, most especially in terms of the fabric quality, compared to the one I had just paid 105 Euros for - except the Brioni cost 3 times as much. I barely even looked at the Brioni shirts at their flagship store in Rome this year. Once you have tasted bespoke even the best RTW is just rubbish. If you haven't owned bespoke shirts before I warn you - there is no going back once you cross this bridge. Charles has one guy that calls him up from London and orders by phone (the pound-Australian dollar exchange makes it much cheaper as a similar quality bespoke shirt from Jermyn St will cost you 3 times as much). Another guy comes all the way from Italy to order from him as his mamma says the shirts he gets from Australia are always the best (she does the ironing). If you can pick 'em up yourself then 10 days is usually enough. Otherwise Charles will mail shirts to you. He is open until 2PM Saturdays and until about 830PM Thursday nights. Unlike most bespoke shirtmakers who have minimum order numbers you can order just one shirt at a time. While you are at the shop you should probably pick out a few nice fabrics for future shirts. The fabrics he has are just fabulous . I can spend ages pawing through his swatches. If you limit yourself to only 10 must-have shirt fabrics you will be doing well. And once Charles has your measurements you can always ring up from Europe and have shirts made from one or more of the other fabrics you picked out. Yes, it's a bit of a hike to get there, but believe you me, your girlfriend will be blown away by how beautiful these shirts are. Mine was
post #19 of 28
Well, if that's not a glowing recommendation, I don't know what is. I'll definitely go check him out.

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Originally Posted by Sator
If you can pick 'em up yourself then 10 days is usually enough. Otherwise Charles will mail shirts to you. He is open until 2PM Saturdays and until about 830PM Thursday nights.

Since I'll be coming in on a Friday night, maybe I'll try to beat the jet lag and get up extra early Saturday to get out there before I start my sightseeing.

Oh, and getting back (well, closer, at least) to the original topic of this thread, what do the RM Williams Craftsman boots run in Australian dollars?

P.S. Sorry about the Socceroos---you guys were robbed (Guus was Holland's last hope in the tournament, so the Dutch commentators were highly supportive of the Australian side).
post #20 of 28
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Originally Posted by Sator
They are pretty much true to size. The sizing is the same as UK sizing for dress shoes.

I just pulled out the current RM Williams catalog I picked up at their George St store and this is their conversion scale:



I was a bit surprised because normally to convert UK sizes to US you add 1/2. But R.M. Williams seems to recommend adding a whole size. I think this is right because the fit for their regular width UK/Australian 7 is similar to that of an Allen Edmonds size 8D. The trouble is that some conversion scales tell me that US8=UK7.5, while others tell me US8=UK7. The answer is it depends on the maker and the last. I would stick to the manufacturer's recommendation here.

A word of caution, however: I think the length is such that the length of an RM Williams of size x corresponds to a AE of size x+1, but I find that the width does not. I wear an AE 7 EEE and a RM Williams 6 G is too narrow by quite a bit.
post #21 of 28
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Originally Posted by summej2
A word of caution, however: I think the length is such that the length of an RM Williams of size x corresponds to a AE of size x+1, but I find that the width does not. I wear an AE 7 EEE and a RM Williams 6 G is too narrow by quite a bit.
You could have a point there. I have read discussions where people say that UK sizing is generally slightly narrower than US sizing - that goes across the board for most UK makers as well as RM Williams. So an A&E 8D is just marginally wider than a RMW 7G (G=standard width). RMW has an H (wide) fit but nothing beyond that equivalent to an EE or EEE fit.
post #22 of 28
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Originally Posted by AmInAm
Well, if that's not a glowing recommendation, I don't know what is. I'll definitely go check him out.

Since I'll be coming in on a Friday night, maybe I'll try to beat the jet lag and get up extra early Saturday to get out there before I start my sightseeing.

Oh, and getting back (well, closer, at least) to the original topic of this thread, what do the RM Williams Craftsman boots run in Australian dollars?

P.S. Sorry about the Socceroos---you guys were robbed (Guus was Holland's last hope in the tournament, so the Dutch commentators were highly supportive of the Australian side).

Yeah, the game was a heart breaker. It sounded like everyone was on the side of the underdogs that hadn't been to the World Cup for over 30 years. I've never seen them play that brilliantly though - all thanks to Guus.

For standard retail pricing and a glance through their entire catalogue I would refer you back to the RM Williams website:

http://rmwilliams.com.au/home.asp

As for Charles Nakhle bespoke shirts - I can't speak highly enough of them . Girls also can't keep their hands off perfectly fitting quality cotton shirts and they'll paw them all the time (don't tell your GF - shift discussion to BBQ sauce ). Definitely worthwhile making a trip if you love the best in menswear. Shame there's not much else out West of Sydney. I'd make my way back into the centre of town as quickly as I could once I'd finished there.

If you come home with a bespoke shirt or two and a pair of RM Williams boots, you would have stuff of genuine quality rather than the overpriced junk most boutiques with harbour views offer.

BTW here is some info on the Tax Return scheme:

http://www.customs.gov.au/webdata/re...__english1.pdf

Minimum purchase on one receipt is $300 AUD to qualify. Hmmm... I am tempted to buy another pair of boots myself to claim tax back as I am heading off to Boston on business around the time you will arrive here!
post #23 of 28
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the discussion.

I just received word from Barry at Boots Online in Australia (excellent service) that my boots have shipped!

I ended up going with the Comfort Turnout as I'd like them to be slightly less dressy than the Craftsman and I feel that the rounded toe achieves that. I also went for the "comfort" model because I plan on doing quite a bit of walking around in these--I plan on making them my workhorse boots.



I'll post pics after I've worn them for a while so anyone that is interested can see how well they age.

Thanks!
post #24 of 28
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Originally Posted by Sator
R.M. Williams has three stores in the city centre

1. George St
2. The Rocks
3. Chifley Plaza

The addresses are listed here:

http://www.rmwilliams.com.au/home.as...183805A447E945

Probably 1 and 2 will be the easiest to find. Most visitors to Sydney will end up at The Rocks near the Opera House at some time. They have an excellent MTM service so if you wanted something particular they will be able to make it for you. Remember to keep your receipts because if you have purchased more than about $250-300 AUD (?) on one receipt you can claim 10% tax back at the airport on the way out of the country if you show them the goods. The office is inside after check in at Sydney Airport so you will have to have the goods on you with your hand luggage. Unlike in Europe you only need the receipts and there is no extra paperwork you need to have filled out at the purchasing store.

Just wanted to clear a point in case anyone else is interested in getting tax back. According to the Australia custom's site-

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What's the difference between a tax invoice and a receipt?

A tax invoice prominently states the words 'tax invoice' and lists the Australian Business Number (ABN) of the retailer, the purchase price including the GST paid, the description of the goods, the name of the supplier and the date the purchase was made. This provides the evidence needed by Customs to verify the sale.

Tax invoices for $1000 or more need additional information, such as the name and address of the purchaser. You must ask the retailer for a tax invoice when you make a purchase. Some retailers provide tax invoices as their normal receipts.

Can I purchase goods from any retailer?
You can buy goods from any retailer who can give you a tax invoice. Some display the TRS logo in their windows.

Can I purchase goods from several stores?
Yes. Provided you have one tax invoice totalling $300 or more (GST inclusive) from each store.

What if I buy goods totalling $300 (GST inclusive) from the same store over several days within the 30 day period?
You should ask the retailer to consolidate your purchases onto one tax invoice totalling $300 or more (GST inclusive). Be sure the retailer will do this before buying the goods.
post #25 of 28
Hi gents,

I've been wearing various types of RMW since the late 80's and have found the MTM roohide to be the most comfortable for all-dy wear. In addition, their water-based polish is easily the best I've used (and I've used a few).

A word of warning about leather soles-I've had one pair made with these and would never do so again! They seem to give no traction on any surface whatsoever, especially bitumen.

Picture it; hapless wearer goes to jaywalk across street, dirty great bus bears down on wearer, wearer tries to put on a burst of speed and ends up running on the spot like the Road Runner! Crunch squelch splat eeewwww...
post #26 of 28
Sator, those don't look like the Forum Special. Are they?
post #27 of 28
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Originally Posted by Sator View Post
Oh I forgot to mention to all concerned: Make sure you get yourself a tin of the RM Williams Saddle and Leather Dressing. It is a colourless leather conditioner that is meant to be applied every 3 months or so. You rub it in with your fingers so your body heat melts it and helps it be absorbed into the leather. It's smells lovely (like a sweet bees wax) and is a pleasure to rub into all of your best leather.

http://www.rmwilliams.com.au/home.as...50AE8E76E3EBF9

wonder how this differs from the polish. Do you use it in addition too?
post #28 of 28
My sales thread (see signature) has pics of some RMWs.
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