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itsstillmatt

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Originally Posted by kwilkinson
Do you get to bring anything back with you?
Yes. We are canning a lot of pate and rilettes, as they do to store for the year. Check your SMS. I'll send some preliminary pics. The wifi here sucks, so I can't post any. You can post them if you like.
 

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Originally Posted by foodguy
i'm working on a piece about cooking the whole pig. spent the weekend cooking pigs ears and confiting pork belly. asian markets are pretty remarkable. any idea what to do with a pigs spleen?

Nice!

No idea about spleen.

Still thinking on that other thing; I'll get in touch this week.
 

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Originally Posted by iammatt
Yes. We are canning a lot of pate and rilettes, as they do to store for the year. Check your SMS. I'll send some preliminary pics. The wifi here sucks, so I can't post any. You can post them if you like.

that wouldn't be kate hill, would it?
 

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My grandmother used to makes cow spleen stuffed with liver, fat and other goodies. It's a Morrocan recipe that is delicious just simply grilled and served with harissa. I love it in a pita bread sandwich too with some mayo and a little tomato/cucumber salad.
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Originally Posted by iammatt
Yes. We are canning a lot of pate and rilettes, as they do to store for the year. Check your SMS. I'll send some preliminary pics. The wifi here sucks, so I can't post any. You can post them if you like.

Will do.
 

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Originally Posted by iammatt
Who wouldn't be Kate hill?

sorry, the person you are cooking with. she's a great teacher -- by all accounts anyway. we've had a lively correspondence but i've never cooked with her.
 

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Originally Posted by EL72
This is a common fallacy and the most compelling reason for buying bone china - especially for everyday use. Bone china is far stronger and more resistant to chips, cracks... than regular porcelain and other cheaper plates, and can go in the dishwasher and microwave with no problems (unless, of course, you have fancy metallic trim on it rather than plain white). I've banged these suckers in the sink and the dishwasher where cheaper ones would have no doubt chipped, and they are still intact.
I have actually dropped a plate on the ground and it didn't break. The stuff is incredibly strong. Mine cost $80 for a dinner plate, but considering that I use them all the time it isn't so bad.
Originally Posted by iammatt
Exactly. I have spent the last few days with a woman in the dordogne who was mitterand's chef at elysee for five years. We've been taking an entire pig and preparing all of the various traditional charcuteroe of the region. When we have eaten, it has been simple and delicious, but the taste is magnificent and the experience great. I've asked her a bit about the food in question in this thread, and she has described it as not "la vrai cuisine.". Anyway, I love formal restaurant food, but do think it is overly fetishized.
Originally Posted by foodguy
what he said. there is a difference between restaurant dining and home dining and the failure to recognize and appreciate that is at the bottom of a lot of our culinary sillinesses. When i started cooking, i also aped restaurant plating (this was so far back, though that BLACK plates were the accepted default, preferably of an odd shape and with the food arranged ikebana style). gradually, over years of cooking, i've moved to platter service. first, it's faster to put together so i can spend more time with my guests; it's attractive but less formal so my guests feel more relaxed; and finally, there is something communal about people sharing from a single platter ... it's kind of the essence of what home cooking is about. this is not restaurant cooking and it is not restaurant plating. that's different decoration for a different experience. and anyone who claims that there is only one true way is ignoring a lot of history. In 25 years writing about food, I've seen the style shift from larousse "sauce on top, preferably glazed" to nouvelle flower arranging, to sauce under meat, to towers that crumbled at the hint of a fork (somewhere a pvc pipe manufacturer is weeping at lost business), to "natural" simplicity, to the current rage for adria foams and gagnaire-like smears -- both of which conjure unfavorable images in my mind. Unless you're a genius the level of michel richard, you should let food look like what it is. that can be the most elegant of all ...
Except that both of you fail to recognize several posts by people here cooking out of something like Bouchon and Ad-Hoc, and then posting pictures of their formally plated creations. I never at any point said that people have to plate formally at home. I certainly don't with company. It's family style, and there's a lot of great restaurants doing family style also. I simply said that if you ARE going to be plating food, do it on a good white plate, because ostensibly you are trying to imitate what you'd see in a restaurant.
 

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Originally Posted by Piobaire
I'd prefer plain white plates but things don't always work out your way. Such is life.

I want to look into glass plates. I saw some at a place that keeps kosher. Apparently, they last forever, they certainly looked good and not that I care, but if I ever needed to go kosher, can be used for both meat and dairy (which is really why this place has them).


I don't think your sausages would work out quite the same if you went kosher.
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Originally Posted by SField
Nothing too thick, choose high quality porcelain (can you see your hand through it in light is apparently a good trick)
If you see your hand through it in the light it's a bad plate? How do you even see your hand through a solid plate?
 

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Originally Posted by indesertum
If you see your hand through it in the light it's a bad plate? How do you even see your hand through a solid plate?

Once you see it you'll know. Its quasi-translucent.
 

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Originally Posted by indesertum
which is good or bad?

Good, generally. Assuming its bone china and not glass.
 

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Originally Posted by SField
Except that both of you fail to recognize several posts by people here cooking out of something like Bouchon and Ad-Hoc, and then posting pictures of their formally plated creations.

Actually, I have failed to notice this, too.

I am the one who has made all the posts about cooking out of ad hoc and Bouchon. I don't recall others doing so. I have posted pics of plates from exactly none of those meals. The one recent (and by "recent" I mean two months ago) pic of a plate I posted (that you ripped to shreds) was a recipe of my own devising. I agreed with you that my plating sucked. I fact, I wrote in that thread "my plating sucks" long before you came along to reiterate that my plating sucks. Now two months later you started a whole new thread to make the same point again? I guess it was so terrible that it stuck with you for a long, long time.
 

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