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post #16 of 120
I switched to a double edge about two weeks ago. I'm using an old Gillete Fatboy adjustable set to 3 or 4 with Feather blades. So far the shave seems about as close as (possibly a little closer than) my Sensor Excel but without any ingrown hairs. So between that and the cheaper blades, I see the DE as an improvement. Incidentally, it seems all my cuts are due to lack of care with the blade's angle.

But I have a question about creams. I'm using Clinique Cream Shave. I've used it for a long time. I've always been happy with it. I'm considering a brush and soap/cream but I didn't want to change both razor and cream at once. (If I liked or didn't like the new shave, I wouldn't know which made the difference.) Has anyone out there moved to a brush and soap/cream without changing their razor? Did you notice a substantial improvement?
post #17 of 120
I too just switched to a DE razor. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong, but I think its a lot worse.
I've always used a shave brush and good cream, but with a mach 3 power rather than a DE razor.
So my 1st shave with the DE razor was actually pretty good, but I had already shaved that day, I used L'Occitane en Provence Cade (Juniper) shave cream, lots of hot water etc, no cuts. I'm sure its due to the minimal preassure I was exercising, becuase I had already shaved that morning. (There is noticable growth on my face by evening). Either way, it was a pretty good shave; it felt closer than the mach 3 power, but then again I don't shave twice a day, so that could be part of it. I always shave just against the grain, and I don't get irritation problems, same this shave.
The 2nd shave with the DE razor was really something else altogether. It was done 1st thing in the morning after a hot shower, used American Crew shave cream with a brush, as I normally would and shaved against the grain. This lead to 1 minor cut, which healed itself pretty soon, and a pimple was where the cut was, so I don't atribute it to the razor. The problem with this shave was the closeness. It was nowhere near as close as the M3 Power. Now, I did not press as hard as I would with the M3 Power, and I also used a lot more strokes, but it left my beard far longer than it usualy would, and with a bit of mild razor burn, which I never experice. The longer beard really irritated me all day.
3rd time, because I was not going to give up on my new investment so easily, I switched back to the L'Occitane en Provence Cade shave cream because I thought that may be the cause, I changed the blade too, and I also thought it could be the fact that I only shave against the grain, so I shave with 1st then against. No luck, went through the shave, and as expected was nowhere near as close as I would normaly get. So I just think fuck it, at this stage I was already very pissed off, because I've already relathered once, and have to do it again... so I get out the M3 Power, give it the once over with another layer of shave cream, and low and behold, its much closer than with the DE... Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong.
The DE razor I'm using is quite cheap, non-adjustable one, and has (well it says) platinium coated blades.
post #18 of 120
Thread Starter 
One think that I think I'm going to work on based on some research that I've done is the angle at which I hold the razor. I suspect this might be your problem too Bouji. I read somewhere that you're supposed to hold the razor almost parallel to the floor, which I never dead with my Mach 3 (I usually held it almost perpendicular to the floor, and which I don't think I did with the DE razor eaither). I read in a couple of different places that holding the DE Razor in such a way gives you a closer shave while allowing you to exert less pressure with the razor against your face. I'm going to give this a try later on tonight and I'll report back how it works.
post #19 of 120
My first shaves were with electric razors given to me as gifts (Braun, Remington and Phillishave). All were quickly given away. I have high cheek bones and found I couldn't get a close shave around them with electrics. I then switched to cartridge razors with canned foam and used them a couple of years.

I found them expensive and purchased a cheap DE Gillette (plastic handle model from late 80's). About a year later I picked up a Gillette adjustable at a flea market for $2 and have been using it for well over a decade.

Until 2-3 years ago I still used canned foam. I then tried a brush with shave soap. It took a good shave to another level. I now look forward to shaving in the morning. Blade angle and pressure is critical and after trying a few times you should get the hang of it. I have never used pre-shave oil. I use both soaps and creams more for variety than need. A little practice is all it takes.

I have been using a sample of Clinique shave cream for a brushless shave when in a hurry. Fairly slick and a decent brushless cream but I wouldn't pay the asking price. More marketing than quality.
post #20 of 120
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Originally Posted by Ed13
Until 2-3 years ago I still used canned foam. I then tried a brush with shave soap. It took a good shave to another level. I now look forward to shaving in the morning. Blade angle and pressure is critical and after trying a few times you should get the hang of it. I have never used pre-shave oil. I use both soaps and creams more for variety than need. A little practice is all it takes.

I have been using a sample of Clinique shave cream for a brushless shave when in a hurry. Fairly slick and a decent brushless cream but I wouldn't pay the asking price. More marketing than quality.

Any recommendations for good creams or soaps? On brushes, is there a noticeable difference between the silvertip or superbadger and the best badger--or whatever they call the second best?
post #21 of 120
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Originally Posted by reubencahn
Any recommendations for good creams or soaps? On brushes, is there a noticeable difference between the silvertip or superbadger and the best badger--or whatever they call the second best?
we've had several long threads on shave creams/soaps.
post #22 of 120
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Originally Posted by Bouji
I too just switched to a DE razor. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong, but I think its a lot worse.
I've always used a shave brush and good cream, but with a mach 3 power rather than a DE razor.
So my 1st shave with the DE razor was actually pretty good, but I had already shaved that day, I used L'Occitane en Provence Cade (Juniper) shave cream, lots of hot water etc, no cuts. I'm sure its due to the minimal preassure I was exercising, becuase I had already shaved that morning. (There is noticable growth on my face by evening). Either way, it was a pretty good shave; it felt closer than the mach 3 power, but then again I don't shave twice a day, so that could be part of it. I always shave just against the grain, and I don't get irritation problems, same this shave.
The 2nd shave with the DE razor was really something else altogether. It was done 1st thing in the morning after a hot shower, used American Crew shave cream with a brush, as I normally would and shaved against the grain. This lead to 1 minor cut, which healed itself pretty soon, and a pimple was where the cut was, so I don't atribute it to the razor. The problem with this shave was the closeness. It was nowhere near as close as the M3 Power. Now, I did not press as hard as I would with the M3 Power, and I also used a lot more strokes, but it left my beard far longer than it usualy would, and with a bit of mild razor burn, which I never experice. The longer beard really irritated me all day.
3rd time, because I was not going to give up on my new investment so easily, I switched back to the L'Occitane en Provence Cade shave cream because I thought that may be the cause, I changed the blade too, and I also thought it could be the fact that I only shave against the grain, so I shave with 1st then against. No luck, went through the shave, and as expected was nowhere near as close as I would normaly get. So I just think fuck it, at this stage I was already very pissed off, because I've already relathered once, and have to do it again... so I get out the M3 Power, give it the once over with another layer of shave cream, and low and behold, its much closer than with the DE... Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong.
The DE razor I'm using is quite cheap, non-adjustable one, and has (well it says) platinium coated blades.

Count me in the camp that thinks DE is all hype. I actually enjoy shaving with it, but think the mach 3 is the best in terms of a consistent shave. Think about this, at on point in time, shaving with a DE razor was the only option available. When double-bladed razors hit the market, most men dumped their DE in favor of the newer technology. I have to believe it was for good reason. Then comparing double-bladed razors to triple-bladed, I can personally attest to it working better. Like most men, I tried both, and went with whichever was better for my needs.

In my opinion, for your daily razor, shave with as many blades as you can get away with, meaning without irritation. Of course, if you enjoy the art of shaving or have the time, by all means, go with the DE. Except for weekends, it's not for me.
post #23 of 120
The blades last longer the better you are able to use it. As for washing it off, I never think too much of it. The only parts that need to be very clean are the edges.

Even now that I have a good feel for the angles I should use when shaving with my Futur, I still get cuts every now and then. I'v decided that with my next ME order Im going to get a Progress.
post #24 of 120
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Originally Posted by Renault78law
Count me in the camp that thinks DE is all hype. I actually enjoy shaving with it, but think the mach 3 is the best in terms of a consistent shave. Think about this, at on point in time, shaving with a DE razor was the only option available. When double-bladed razors hit the market, most men dumped their DE in favor of the newer technology. I have to believe it was for good reason. Then comparing double-bladed razors to triple-bladed, I can personally attest to it working better. Like most men, I tried both, and went with whichever was better for my needs. In my opinion, for your daily razor, shave with as many blades as you can get away with, meaning without irritation. Of course, if you enjoy the art of shaving or have the time, by all means, go with the DE. Except for weekends, it's not for me.
if you have a soft beard, a DE probably won't be any better than a cartridge razor. however, if one has a tough beard, the DEs are priceless. if one has a tough beard, an electric will actually shave you closer than a mach 3, and a DE will shave closer than the electric.
post #25 of 120
I find that the DE probably doesn't shave closer than my Sensors did, but it almost never gives me any irritation, which I consider worth the tradeoff in time, energy and closeness.
post #26 of 120
With a double-edged razor, you have to shave twice in order to get the closeness. Afterwards some like to use an eletric razor as a once-over.
post #27 of 120
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Originally Posted by LabelKing
With a double-edged razor, you have to shave twice in order to get the closeness. Afterwards some like to use an eletric razor as a once-over.

Not necessarily. All depends on technique (angle, pressure) the razor itself (if it is adjustable) and the blades used.
Using Feather blades for instance will give in most cases a very close shave copmpared to Merku Platinum blades BUT for some people the aforementioned are just too sharp. I have read of multiple people mentioning burns and nicks with those when first starting but my hair is so coarse that I noticed nothing of the sort. I am actually getting rid of all my Merkur blade due to that. Reasons I go over the same area would be due to missing spots (mostly the sides of my neck). Plus remember, no long movements! You must use shorter, crisper strokes to effectively use DEs.
post #28 of 120
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Using Feather blades for instance will give in most cases a very close shave copmpared to Merku Platinum blades BUT for some people the aforementioned are just too sharp. I have read of multiple people mentioning burns and nicks with those when first starting but my hair is so coarse that I noticed nothing of the sort. I am actually getting rid of all my Merkur blade due to that.

Oh boy are they sharp. I have pretty soft hair and have been using the Merkur blades; I use excellent creams, a good brush, the supposedly right angles, etc. and still have very irritated skin and several cuts. So you think switching blades might make that much of a difference?
post #29 of 120
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Originally Posted by Englandmj7
Oh boy are they sharp. I have pretty soft hair and have been using the Merkur blades; I use excellent creams, a good brush, the supposedly right angles, etc. and still have very irritated skin and several cuts. So you think switching blades might make that much of a difference?
It hasd made a big difference to me. I have three boxes of Merkur Platinum. Some person over ath shavemyface.com has been selling little sampler packs of Derby, Israeli Persona, Swedish Gilette & Feather blades. After using the Feathers, I have completely stopped using the Merkur. Still zero irritation but much more efficient, don't really need second passes unless I miss spots. I found the Israeli & the Feathers worked teh best, have not tried the Derby yet (they're Turkish I believe, that does make me feel a little uneasy but that is a different matter). Edit: You may want to make sure you put little pressure and also try some less aggressive blades like the Derby. I have not tried them yet myself.
post #30 of 120
I use Feather blades and always do it twice, and then another time with an electric.
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