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post #4006 of 4248
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There's some really funny stuff in this thread but every half dozen or dozen post I have to go through some bullshit racist/homophobic/transmisogynistic shtick of unfunny brodudes trying to seem clever and it's really off putting. Like how insecure do you have to be to have to make jokes at gay/trans people's expense to feel manly?

And if you seriously cannot find women without makeup that's pretty sad because pssst here's a secret: your mother your potential mates, sisters, daughters, they aren't born with makeup, and one day if you're not careful you might have to see them without it.

Women get raped all the time by straight men, but nobody would consider an average straight man creepy, but when there are gay fetishists that MIGHT target you are they considered creepy. Think for a second how that reflects on your characters.

Feel free to look up stats of rapists by sexual orientation assuming you don't pull up a Westboro citation.

I generally don't disagree with what you're saying.

But...

Dirty sock fetish is pretty creepy by most standards, whether it's straight or gay. It's unsanitary and, imho, sartorially off-putting.

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A man with a stocking over his head sitting on a bed in that manner looks pretty menacing by any standards. If you add the story about one of the posters here getting harassed and stalked by a couple of guys, in this particular fetish community, who fantasises about raping suited men - it's pretty creepy (rape culture is creepy on all sides of the fence).
post #4007 of 4248
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Originally Posted by EFV View Post

A man with a stocking over his head sitting on a bed in that manner looks pretty menacing by any standards. If you add the story about one of the posters here getting harassed and stalked by a couple of guys, in this particular fetish community, who fantasises about raping suited men

^agreed, people have different fetishes, but when you harass someone online it's crossing the line no matter wheter your fetish is just bizzare or downright nasty (which is of secondary importance)

 

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- it's pretty creepy (rape culture is creepy on all sides of the fence).

 

Rape culture? :paranoia:

Even killing someone is more justified in our culture than rape (vide dexter).

I am yet to see a movie about a really friendly rapist you root for. So yeah it

doesn't exist, at least in West/European culture.

post #4008 of 4248
Wojt - you've never seen Revenge of the Nerds?
post #4009 of 4248
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Originally Posted by Isolation View Post

There's some really funny stuff in this thread but every half dozen or dozen post I have to go through some bullshit racist/homophobic/transmisogynistic shtick of unfunny brodudes trying to seem clever and it's really off putting. Like how insecure do you have to be to have to make jokes at gay/trans people's expense to feel manly?

And if you seriously cannot find women without makeup that's pretty sad because pssst here's a secret: your mother your potential mates, sisters, daughters, they aren't born with makeup, and one day if you're not careful you might have to see them without it.

Women get raped all the time by straight men, but nobody would consider an average straight man creepy, but when there are gay fetishists that MIGHT target you are they considered creepy. Think for a second how that reflects on your characters.

Feel free to look up stats of rapists by sexual orientation assuming you don't pull up a Westboro citation.

I feel people who point out things like this just do it to appear "above" others. All about their ego, as it is seen as progressive and higher class to dub another a racist/homophobe/bigot/misogynist. Jokes are jokes. It's only your interpretation of them that make them "bad". The whole fucking world needs to chill the fuck out and stop making themselves victims of everything.
post #4010 of 4248
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Originally Posted by EFV View Post

A man with a stocking over his head


When I saw that photo I didn't look very closely, my thoughts were "What's the big deal here, the guy just photoshopped a spot over his head to become unrecognisable for some reason".
Just looked again, and had a 'wtf, how did I miss that' moment, that shit is creepy indeed!

Whether the guy has some (dirty) sock or stocking fetish, I don't care. But the way he stares into the camera through (his??) stocking is just plain freaky. 

post #4011 of 4248
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Originally Posted by wojt View Post

Rape culture? patch%5B1%5D.gif
Even killing someone is more justified in our culture than rape (vide dexter).
I am yet to see a movie about a really friendly rapist you root for. So yeah it
doesn't exist, at least in West/European culture.

lol
post #4012 of 4248
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

I feel people who point out things like this just do it to appear "above" others. All about their ego, as it is seen as progressive and higher class to dub another a racist/homophobe/bigot/misogynist. Jokes are jokes. It's only your interpretation of them that make them "bad". The whole fucking world needs to chill the fuck out and stop making themselves victims of everything.

This one is not lol it's just disgusting. Maybe that's how your character and personality works, but some people have a sense right and wrong. I'm not the only one who brought this up, and probably I'm loudest because I have the least reputation to lose by being "politically correct". lol at arguing that people do it do it to feel superior. You think calling out people on bigotry makes you feel good? You clearly haven't tried because 90% of the time you get told to sit down and shut up, get made fun of behind your back, get insulted just like right now, told that I'm only doing it to seem superior or "for brownie points", and when someone does try to discuss it they use bullshit logic and anecdotal "proof" despite not having actually analysed the relaxant statistics, be it rape/race/assault statistics or media representation in film shows games literature.

Like I'm sure you might use me not being bothered to start bringing out citations as proof I don't actually have a strong position but I'm pretty sick of doing this all the time. I'm not going to educate you for your own benefit. If you're going to think your half baked, unresearched and unconsidered opinion is valid without really thinking about it and as a result sound like a buffoon to anyone who has that's not my business, just know that I'm not the only one judging you and realising how self centered you are.

I'm not a victim of homophobia or misogyny, the fact that you think I need to feel victimised to cry injustice again speaks volumes about your character.

Also it's easy to say something is not important when it doesn't hurt you. That's how self centered you are. You sound like one of those people who say that slavery ended decades ago so black people should shut up about it. And if you are then I'm just gonna say lol again.
post #4013 of 4248
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Originally Posted by Displacement View Post

Wojt - you've never seen Revenge of the Nerds?

 



no I haven't..

was this some reference I didn't get and owned myself :P ?
post #4014 of 4248
I'm not interested in derailing this thread any further, lets just say you're categorically wrong and leave it at that.
post #4015 of 4248
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Originally Posted by Displacement View Post

I'm not interested in derailing this thread any further, lets just say you're categorically wrong and leave it at that.

 



well in case you'd like to prove this rape culture exists, you can always make an thread here, after all I might be wrong
http://www.styleforum.net/f/8/current-events-power-and-money, my views are 95% same as this guy on the topic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KQQ1bzQn0k (I don't wish to continue this dicussion in this thread either)
post #4016 of 4248
If there was a prize or if your opinion/thoughts are something I care about I might consider it. I'm fairly content already that there are at least some people who feel similar, that those with a conscience are now reminded to consider the things they say or laugh at, and people in the future reading through this thread don't think everyone on this forum are privileged assholes showing off how much pretty clothes and the seeming of class their family wealth, upbringing, and education can buy.

If me reminding people to not make crass bigoted comments isn't enough then nothing I'm prepared to spend time to say will. Good day.

PS: And as an aside I'm not saying the sock fetishist stalker a aren't creepy I'm referring to the trend in this thread to joke about homosexuality, transsexuality, and cross dressing. To that end I said that people here would find the idea of a gay rapist more scary than a straight rapist even though there are more of the latter. "Straight men find gay men threatening because they are afraid gay men would treat them the same way straight men treat women." In fact if you count prison statistics there are more straight men raping men then gay men raping men.

As an aside wrt crossdessing, I think women in suits can be really hot, if only there are non bespoke options that have a full three pockets, aren't short enough to show off the butt, cut so low and badly so the breast area spills over, rarely ever more than one button with ridiculous stance, and random frills and feminine accents... Anyway I can't believe I'd be the only one who thinks that.
post #4017 of 4248
The argument isn't about calling people out on bigotry etc, the argument is on what is being labeled as bigoted etc is growing and growing (and usually not bigoted at all, but rather harmless) people like to whine and chose to be offended and victimized. The world's balls have been cut off. And yes, I do believe people that publicly label things and bigoted, or whatever, when it truly isn't do it because it feeds their ego.
post #4018 of 4248
It's funny because you used "balls" when you mean "spine".
post #4019 of 4248
More gender neutral for you? rolleyes.gif
post #4020 of 4248
Someone who isn't targeted or harmed is not generally a good judge on what is or isn't harmful at all.

Unless you're a sociology PhD or something. Are you?
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