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post #31 of 108
2/10/10 at 10:14am
Artie Bucco: That burns my ass. Tony Soprano: * gets up and walks toward Doofus' table* Artie Bucco: Where you goin'? Doofus' date: That would be great. Tony Soprano: Take your hat off. Doofus: Excuse me? Tony Soprano: They don't sell hot dogs here. They took the bleachers out two years ago. Doofus: It's my hat. I'll wear it where i want. Tony Soprano: * glares* Doofus: *reconsiders. removes hat.* Tony Soprano: (to Doofus' date) How you doin'? Waiter: Thank you.
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post #32 of 108
2/10/10 at 10:37am
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Originally Posted by iammatt View Post
You don't wear a hat at dinner. Jeez, kids these days. My father would have knocked the fucking thing off of my head.

+100. Your dad sounds like one of the last real men in America.

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Originally Posted by kwilkinson View Post
I think a better question is "who actually wears baseball caps?"

+50

I decide to take my Mom to the Cove in Atlantis for her 60th birthday celebration. She's a big fan of Bobby Flay so I made reservations for us + my girlfriend to eat at Mesa Grill. Note, this is a AAA 5 Diamond restaurant. Unfortunately I was unaware that the Atlantis was hosting a poker tournament the week we'd be spending there. And with poker tournaments come...poker players. (There's something about people who make their living by way of the griff that doesn't sit right with me)

So we're out to dinner, I'm wearing a suit and the ladies are wearing dresses. Standing in front of us are 3 poker players (I know this because of the hat & t-shirt one of them is wearing along with....fucking flip flops. BTW "Fucking flip flops would be the words I'd say about every 15 minutes at dinner that night. The hostess looks this one guy up and down and informs him he needs to take his hat off, but because she's standing behind a desk she doesn't notice he's wearing beach shoes. She proceeds to seat the 3 of these lug nuts at a table. I don't think I would have minded so much if they were at the bar, but a table??

These guys didn't ruin our evening but people have to remember, even when at Houston's, for somebody there its special. You don't want to look over and see someone who looks like they should be at a fucking Applebees.
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post #33 of 108
2/10/10 at 11:09am
Once, I went to one of my favorite restaurants to have a nice dinner with my wife. The music they were playing was nice, the atmosphere was fun, and Mrs. Teacher and I were having a wonderful time out sans children. When our food came, I thought the kitchen had outdone itself: my braised pork tenderloin with the cranberry/port sauce was just out of this world, and the broccoli rabe was cooked to perfection. Just as I was beginning to enjoy my food, I noticed a man wearing a hat about four tables away. I asked the waitress to reprimand this fool, but she must have forgotten. I couldn't take my eyes off this rapscallion. I scarfed down the remainder of my meal without really tasting it. Mrs. Teacher got upset with me because I wasn't conversing with her, but what was I supposed to do??? I tried telling her, "But look, he's WEARING A HAT!!" but it was no use. I refused to tip the waitress and informed the manager that I would never be back. That man's hat ruined my dining experience, and I'll never forgive him for it. Never. NEVER!
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post #34 of 108
2/10/10 at 11:24am
Dress code is dress code. Lots of restruants bars what a certain standard. The fact that you were politely asked to remove your hat doesnt bother me at all. Just like being offered a jacket to wear. I have a feeling that if you pitched a fit right then and there, they would have seated you.
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post #35 of 108
2/10/10 at 11:25am
How ironic, at NFL games, men are asked to remove their caps for the national anthem and everyone does so without complaint, and rightly so out of respect. The same applies to dinner.
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post #36 of 108
2/10/10 at 11:28am
Indeed, taking off a team cap is quite an egregious standard to meet.

Where I grew up, almost everyone belonged to the Legion (if you don't know, you're obviously a big timer already). If you walked into the place with a hat on, you had to buy the place a round. It was a matter of respect not to have your head covered in there.
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post #37 of 108
2/10/10 at 11:35am
I can't believe the OP is even remotely bothered by this. It's simple courtesy to remove a hat at the dinner table, and I can't imagine being offended if a restaurant requested I adhere to that standard.

There are places that don't care about dress, and if you want to eat somewhere it's acceptable to wear hats at the table try Applebee's. Some places care what you wear, some places don't. You have the choice as to whether or not to eat there just like each restaurant has the choice as to its dress code. If you don't like the dress code at a particular restaurant, simply find a place that's amenable to your preference.

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This is exactly what I thought of as I read the OP. That scene is, hands down, one of my favorite from that entire series.
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post #38 of 108
2/10/10 at 11:50am
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Originally Posted by kwilkinson View Post
I think a better question is "who actually wears baseball caps?"

Balding guys. It's so obvious these days it's sort of sad.
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post #39 of 108
2/10/10 at 12:15pm
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Originally Posted by rjakapeanut View Post
my big thing is...this place isn't even a tremendous restaurant that would require such high standards of dress. it's a dimly lit, uppity steakhouse.

how would the hat make any difference, whether he were wearing it or not? maybe he doesn't think that it's a big deal. and he is the customer.

not sure i'm following you on the comparison to an offensive shirt. it's just a hat.

I am against dress codes at restaurants but I understand that they're remnants of hardline class distinctions and that most people patronize expensive ones for the aspirational feelings anyway so they actually enjoy those restrictions and the ensuing ambiance. However your case is totally different; removing your hat at the table is basic manners, sorta like not sitting on the table or avoiding sticking the napkin up your butt. If you can't even do that it would be wise to avoid eating in public.
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post #40 of 108
2/10/10 at 12:27pm
Take your hat off. If you want to dress like a slob at dinner go to McDonalds. Even a cheap chain steakhouse deserves the simple courtesy of hat removal.
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post #41 of 108
2/10/10 at 12:36pm
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Originally Posted by Teacher View Post
Once, I went to one of my favorite restaurants to have a nice dinner with my wife. The music they were playing was nice, the atmosphere was fun, and Mrs. Teacher and I were having a wonderful time out sans children. When our food came, I thought the kitchen had outdone itself: my braised pork tenderloin with the cranberry/port sauce was just out of this world, and the broccoli rabe was cooked to perfection. Just as I was beginning to enjoy my food, I noticed a man wearing a hat about four tables away. I asked the waitress to reprimand this fool, but she must have forgotten. I couldn't take my eyes off this rapscallion. I scarfed down the remainder of my meal without really tasting it. Mrs. Teacher got upset with me because I wasn't conversing with her, but what was I supposed to do??? I tried telling her, "But look, he's WEARING A HAT!!" but it was no use. I refused to tip the waitress and informed the manager that I would never be back. That man's hat ruined my dining experience, and I'll never forgive him for it. Never. NEVER!
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post #42 of 108
2/10/10 at 12:38pm
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Originally Posted by rjakapeanut View Post
having a little debate about this in my mind... alright, here goes. i went out to dinner with a buddy of mine, at a place called houstons. houstons is nothing special. the food is pretty good for the price -- ranging from $14 to $35 a plate. the restaurants vibe and atmosphere is pretty relaxed. we love to go, eat some decent food at an acceptable price, and chat it up. since we are from new orleans, we just were coming from a saints parade (just like everyone else in the restaurant). naturally we were decked out in team apparel -- and team hats. baseball caps. a big guy is about to be seated with his wife, and the hostess tells him "i'm sorry sir but could you please take your hat off in the dining area? we have a strict dress code". he says "no problem at all" and takes his hat off. naturally, i'm outraged. here's my issue: i understand that restaurants have their dress codes and what-not. i respect their right to enforce these dress codes. but seriously? this is a fucking uppity steakhouse, not emeril's. who gives a shit if this guy wears his hat? who are you to tell this guy to not wear his hat? i understand if you're trying to create a specific look for your clientele and all of that nonsense, but to actually tell someone to take their hat off? what happens if i don't? will you throw me out? throw a paying customer out for...wearing a baseball cap? whats the cutoff here. if some 9 year old kid is wearing a hat, do you tell him to take it off? whats the cutoff age? if the kids 13, do you tell him to take it off? what if a kid is 14 but looks 18, what happens when you tell him? i mean seriously...i certainly have a cynical mind....but am i the only one asking "who gives a shit?" when it comes to these unreasonable and pretentious restaurant dress codes? you make food. i eat food. i pay you for food. the end.
You're a philistine. If you don't want to abide by a simple dress code then don't fucking eat there. You live in the US, there are plenty of troughs serving slop that I'm sure you and all the others who wear baseball hats indoors will find agreeable. A hat won't really ruin anyone's experience, but a restaurant is a business with a brand and image to protect. If they want to be known as a place where people with basic values such as not fucking wearing a hat indoors come to eat, then they are right in enforcing it. In this day and age, that kind of thing is something that sets you apart, and not in a negative way in my opinion. There are millions of places where fat people with baseball hats can go get cheese sauce all over their shirts. I don't think it is unreasonable for like 1% of the restaurants in the US to create a slightly elevated atmosphere. Dress codes are always incredibly simple. The absolute worst you'll ever have to do is wear a fucking jacket.
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post #43 of 108
2/10/10 at 1:15pm
This message board is filled with savages. Have fun proposing at Buffalo Wild Wings. With this tangy wild sauce I thy wed.
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post #44 of 108
2/10/10 at 1:19pm
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Originally Posted by Teacher View Post
Once, I went to one of my favorite restaurants to have a nice dinner with my wife. The music they were playing was nice, the atmosphere was fun, and Mrs. Teacher and I were having a wonderful time out sans children. When our food came, I thought the kitchen had outdone itself: my braised pork tenderloin with the cranberry/port sauce was just out of this world, and the broccoli rabe was cooked to perfection. Just as I was beginning to enjoy my food, I noticed a man wearing a hat about four tables away. I asked the waitress to reprimand this fool, but she must have forgotten. I couldn't take my eyes off this rapscallion. I scarfed down the remainder of my meal without really tasting it. Mrs. Teacher got upset with me because I wasn't conversing with her, but what was I supposed to do??? I tried telling her, "But look, he's WEARING A HAT!!" but it was no use. I refused to tip the waitress and informed the manager that I would never be back. That man's hat ruined my dining experience, and I'll never forgive him for it. Never. NEVER!

What the fuck is wrong with you?
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post #45 of 108
2/10/10 at 1:20pm
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Originally Posted by Slopho View Post
This message board is filled with savages. Have fun proposing at Buffalo Wild Wings. With this tangy wild sauce I thee wed.

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