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post #76 of 87
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Originally Posted by bigbadbuff
Is anyone here really knowledgeable about putting together a lease offer? If so, and you wouldn't mind helping me create one, please PM me.

I can help you with the lease arithmetics. You will need the following information: invoice, selling price, lease length, residual value, money factor, disposition fee, and tax rate. The money factor is the lease equivalent of an interest rate. A dealer shouldn't make more than 0.00040 profit over the buy rate. If you get a quote from a dealer, make sure you get all of the above information. They are useful for negotiation purposes.
post #77 of 87
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After MUCH debate, countless test drives, overnighting vehicles, and crunching data... we've settled on the RX350. A short blurb on each of the finalists:

Chevy Tahoe/GMC Yukon- in the end, I couldn't justify needing that much room- and that had to be a necessity given the vehicle cost, insurance, and relatively poor gas mileage. This IS GM's best overall vehicle in a long time IMO; but even with the fantastic pricing I got (well below invoice) it wasn't quite enough. If I had kids, a boat, etc. it stood a better chance.

Acura MDX- they are simply blowing the 06 models out the door in preparation for the 07s; I was cutting into EVERYTHING with the dealers... incentive, holdback, etc. and easily getting ok's of only $300 TRUE profit to the dealer, bringing loaded Touring versions down into the mid 30s. Only 1 problem- after driving it for an hour, I hated how it felt. Probably the stiffest seats I've ever sat in. Backseat did not recline and is set at a poor angle IMO, almost straight up. It was also gnawing at me that my 03 Accord had practically the same bells and whistles (and in some cases better versions) as the 06 version of Honda's lux line. Had this been more comfortable and had a couple more items I wanted it easily would have been our pick, as my wife loved the roominess and comfort factor, and the price was great. However, the things above- coupled with the 2 worst dealership experiences of my life (and the only Acura dealer within 80 miles, so my only choice if I needed warranty work done) soured me on it.

Lexus RX350- there were many reasons I didn't want to like this. The most expensive choice on our list. Egg shaped. The least amount of cargo space. The fact we'd be buying a new Lexus in our 20s (brand connotations I didn't want, similar to what BMW owners have to put up with). I intentionally checked it out first hoping it would fade once I saw other things- it didn't. When I got in, I didn't want to get out. Everything I envisioned us using it for- daily driver for me, escorting friends/family, vacations, golf outings, shopping- it was perfect. The worst thing I can say about it is that the armrest should be a center console instead of attaching to the chairs. Considering how picky I am, that is quite a compliment. Lexus wins.

I'll post a pic when I get it... thanks a ton for everyone's help.
post #78 of 87
Great choice. Lexus is famous for its high resale value and reliability. My friend has a Lexus with 150,000 miles on it without any major repair except for replacing a timing belt, and it's still going strong. You may pay close to or full sticker for it but the long term repair cost is very low. Just keep up with the regular maintenance and you won't expect any problems with the car. What options did you chooce?
post #79 of 87
Thread Starter 
we're getting the Premium Plus package with Navigation. There are plenty of them on the lots in VA/MD so I am getting a good deal. I simply take invoice, subtract dealer holdback, add x dollars that I feel is a fair profit for them and that's my offer.

I angle it as I am ready to buy, know exactly what I want and will be in/out of the dealership as quick as they can get me thru, easy and quick money for them. Some are willing to play that game, most aren't- most drop out as soon as you make it clear you're sticking to invoice level pricing. I avoid the regular salespeople at all costs, and the few times I had to deal with them face to face was a painful reminder of why. Not all were like that (Lexus was actually professional and helpful on both visits) but most seemed to be trying to do everything possible to make me buy a car that day at MSRP- in other words, treating me like an idiot that does no research and is susceptible to their bullying tactics. I should have known better, but I expected more professional behavior at the luxury dealerships... t'was not to be.
post #80 of 87
Get a Scion--they're cheap, get good gas mileage, and are ungly as homemade sin. No one will envy you.
post #81 of 87
How much does a premium fill-up with a Scion cost?
post #82 of 87
sorry to hear we could not make a sale to you on the Yukon.
post #83 of 87
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Originally Posted by bigbadbuff
After MUCH debate, countless test drives, overnighting vehicles, and crunching data... we've settled on the RX350.
BOOOOOO! our 5 page thread on alfa romeo didn't convince you? seriously, i don't know why a young couple in their 20s, without kids, feels the need to have a 4 door car, let alone an suv.
post #84 of 87
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Originally Posted by dirk diggler
sorry to hear we could not make a sale to you on the Yukon.

I felt like I was letting you down personally! Sorry, I really appreciate the help you gave me though.

As for matador's comment- did my explanation as to why the Lexus won not answer your question? We included sedans from the start, for one reason or another they all had negatives significant enough for us to cross them off.

If it makes you feel better, you can think whatever you like- but the truth is we looked at a HUGE variety of vehicles and the Lexus was left standing in the end. I would assume most people decide on 'their' vehicle in the exact same way...
post #85 of 87
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Originally Posted by matadorpoeta
BOOOOOO!

our 5 page thread on alfa romeo didn't convince you?

seriously, i don't know why a young couple in their 20s, without kids, feels the need to have a 4 door car, let alone an suv.

I'm 25 and I drive an SUV because I'm 6'2" and don't fit in compact cars comfortably.
post #86 of 87
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Originally Posted by bigbadbuff
I felt like I was letting you down personally! Sorry, I really appreciate the help you gave me though.

As for matador's comment- did my explanation as to why the Lexus won not answer your question? We included sedans from the start, for one reason or another they all had negatives significant enough for us to cross them off.

If it makes you feel better, you can think whatever you like- but the truth is we looked at a HUGE variety of vehicles and the Lexus was left standing in the end. I would assume most people decide on 'their' vehicle in the exact same way...

no problem - glad we were in the running.
post #87 of 87
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Originally Posted by odoreater
I'm 25 and I drive an SUV because I'm 6'2" and don't fit in compact cars comfortably.
so get a bigger car. if you want to drive an suv, drive one, but don't use your height as an excuse.
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