The owner is a real dick, if the story he shared was true. That means he is trying to sell the shoes after his dad took all the effort to resurrect the shoe.
I can't believed his dad would let him did that, more likely either he took the shoe and trying to make a profit, or brought this redrafted piece and seeking the cash out.
What a relief by exploding the words
I have been driving back to Santa Barbara for the restart of school and had not seen any of this. Are you out of your mind? These are my dads shoes, not mine, and he is the one who sells items on Ebay, not me. I have only helped him when I was at home and he had health issues. You don't know what you are talking about and since you don't maybe you should just keep your stupidity to yourself. You don't know me and you certainly don't know my father. Why don't you be a real man and at least take responsibility for what you said instead of trying to find some other way or person to excuse it. You were so far off base you're not even on the same planet. What a complete a-hole you are!
Perhaps, but the book length description of the shoes is very misleading, at best.
So tell all of us, exactly, how is it misleading? You mean, like he tells the complete story so you can make up your mind? What is misleading about it? You sound like a typical politician who makes unsubstantiated broad-brush remarks and just expects them to be accepted as the truth. What is misleading since you seem to think you are the expert? Now I know exactly what he was talking about with some of you a-holes.
So tell all of us, exactly, how is it misleading? You mean, like he tells the complete story so you can make up your mind? What is misleading about it? You sound like a typical politician who makes unsubstantiated broad-brush remarks and just expects them to be accepted as the truth. What is misleading since you seem to think you are the expert? Now I know exactly what he was talking about with some of you a-holes.
I have said before that I respect your Dad, and have really enjoyed many of his ebay offerings. He conducts his business as a true gentleman! That said, the "Brand New In Box" listing is misleading. I do see the explanation below, which clears things up. However, they are not BNIB. Even re-crafted (albeit excellently), they are still "used". Regardless, they are great shoes.
I have said before that I respect your Dad, and have really enjoyed many of his ebay offerings. He conducts his business as a true gentleman! That said, the "Brand New In Box" listing is misleading. I do see the explanation below, which clears things up. However, they are not BNIB. Even re-crafted (albeit excellently), they are still "used". Regardless, they are great shoes.
LSL:
Pretty much this. And the description has changed several times, I was referring only to the first $8k version that only said "...all new materials they qualify as “new, in box.”"
The other point I would contend is misleading the made to Top Drawer Standards. The few top drawer shoes I have seen show exquisitely finished bevelled soles, tapered heels, tighter edge welt etc. Not sure how they could be to top drawer standards without exhibiting any of the TD features.
Anyhow good luck, and please keep your name calling to yourself, it really is uncalled for on both sides.
The other point I would contend is misleading the made to Top Drawer Standards. Not sure how they could be to top drawer standards without exhibiting any of the TD features.
imo, you have to distinguish between standards and features. some of the features you mentioned wouldn't suit the character of the shoe and as LSL mentioned his dad had a lot of special demands on his list. anyway. 6k is still a lot of dough.
Does anybody recognize these? The pic if from Hook & Albert's website (hence the laces) but they don't give a fashion credit for the shoes so I'm kind of at a loss.
LSL:
Pretty much this. And the description has changed several times, I was referring only to the first $8k version that only said "...all new materials they qualify as “new, in box.”"
The other point I would contend is misleading the made to Top Drawer Standards. The few top drawer shoes I have seen show exquisitely finished bevelled soles, tapered heels, tighter edge welt etc. Not sure how they could be to top drawer standards without exhibiting any of the TD features.
Anyhow good luck, and please keep your name calling to yourself, it really is uncalled for on both sides.
"Don Corleone: [glances briefly at Sonny] I have a sentimental weakness for my children, and I spoil them, as you can see. They talk when they should listen."
My dad has repeatedly admonished me to refrain from responding to any attacks made on him or his auctions, which he assured me would occur. In the past I have followed his wishes in this, but when you say his auction is "misleading" you are calling him a liar. He is not.
No one, and I mean no one, provides more information, explanations, and photographic evidence than he provides. As to "Top Drawer" standards, which I admit I know nothing about, all he did was quote what Edward Green told him in an email: "Once completed, Edward Green informed me that “all the work on the shoes was carried out by hand by our master craftsman who only works on our Top Drawer line usually.” I don't think that is normally the case on re-crafted shoes, but I am not the expert. I think he has gone out of his way to provide as much information as he can, along with using salesmanship, of course.
His pricing was and continues to be explained, even if some refuse to acknowledge that. His Buy It Now prices are reserved for those buyers my dad would normally NOT want to sell to, buyers known to cause trouble. If he is going to have to deal with someone known to cause trouble on their purchases then they will pay a premium for it. When he initially listed them at a fixed price he clearly explained that this was one of the reasons for the high Buy It Now, along with his desire to bring in lots of traffic for this item as well as his other items. Given the more than 1200 hits it had when I left and the dozens of watchers I think he accomplished his goal. He knew no one in their right mind would use the Buy It Now, so, they would have to Make An Offer, thus allowing him to carefully review their feedback before accepting any offers. Why is this concept so difficult for some to understand?
Your other points are equally without merit and addressed in his description for those who read it so I will refrain from further involvement in this since my level of involvement thus far would greatly anger and disappoint my dad, if he was aware of it. I am a Physics major and do complex programming on the side to augment my GI Bill so I really don't have time for this nonsense anyway. I was trying to learn a bit more about something my dad cares a lot about, especially since he has required my help in recent years. I apologize to anyone I may have offended, with the exception of the idiot who called me a "dick." I know better than to respond to name calling with name calling of my own and the fact that it was started by another is no excuse much less a poor excuse. Edited by LatinStyleLover - 9/2/12 at 3:00pm