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Originally Posted by Fang66 View Post


The Tradingpost in Ginza is staffed by assholes, and considering they are within walking distance of Washington and a couple of other high end shoe stores I don't know how they do any business.

I have no idea about the quality of their own brand of shoes, I won't go into the joint again.

Only ever been to the Fukuoka branch. They are always extremely helpful, and offers to polish my shoes and such if they´re not superbusy with other customers. Quite fond of the place, really! Now, they don´t have my sizes at all, and with my mother visiting now, they didn´t even have hers (unless she went mens models)

I´ve had soles changed there though, as well as bought lots of tools. Never any trouble!

The people at the ginza branch might have that Tokai-attitude!

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Only ever been to the Fukuoka branch. They are always extremely helpful, and offers to polish my shoes and such if they´re not superbusy with other customers. Quite fond of the place, really! Now, they don´t have my sizes at all, and with my mother visiting now, they didn´t even have hers (unless she went mens models)
I´ve had soles changed there though, as well as bought lots of tools. Never any trouble!
The people at the ginza branch might have that Tokai-attitude!

Trading Post hadn't arrived when I lived in Hakata, but I can see folks in Fukuoka being more friendly. I thought that the Ginza folks were jerks because they had too many tourists dropping by. My sour experience with the Ginza location was in 2005. They must have had staff turnover since then, so I can only assume that the attitude is encouraged.

Bic
Edited by Bic Pentameter - 3/31/13 at 1:18am
post #10938 of 12618
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Trading Post hadn't arrived when I lived in Hakata, but I can see folks in Fukuoka being more friendly. I thought tha the Ginza folks were jerks because they had too many tourists dropping by. My sour experience with the Ginza location was in 2005. They must have had staff turnover since then, so I can only assume that the attitude is encouraged.

Bic

My visit there was in 2009.
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post #10940 of 12618
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Maybe I've been lucky because, on the couple of occasions I've visited, the staff have been very nice and helpful.

I did go one other time when it was crowded and I loitered around without being served, but the other two times the staff were very gracious and helpful.

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Originally Posted by Fang66 View Post

Ginza branch?

Yes, the Ginza branch.
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Could be they hate Queenslanders?

I'm from Brisbane and they didn't seem to mind me, so probably not!

I'll (hopefully) be back in Tokyo/Japan for 3-4 weeks in June-July this year, so I might go back and see how I get treated this time!
post #10941 of 12618
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I would be surprised if they use hand welting, the website is hard to decipher, but if it is hand welting then it is even better value.

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Jalan shoes are hand lasted, hand welted, but the soles are machine stitched. They call it 'Handwelted Goodyear' construction. Strange name

They are made by Fortuna shoes in Indonesia as mentioned above, and I believe the brand was originally a joint venture with GMT (possibly GMT supplying design). Fortuna also OEMs for Italian brands.

They are sold in Japan and now Korea, and I dont think they are available in hometown Indonesia.

There is a big article on Jalan Sriwijaya shoes on the Spring 2012 LAST magazine.
Edited by nutcracker - 3/31/13 at 2:26am
post #10942 of 12618
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Originally Posted by Fang66 View Post

The Tradingpost in Ginza is staffed by assholes, and considering they are within walking distance of Washington and a couple of other high end shoe stores I don't know how they do any business.

I have no idea about the quality of their own brand of shoes, I won't go into the joint again.

Never bought from them, but I have chatted with their staffs for a few occasions.
Yes, kinda sad but definitely not surprised how foreigners or perceived foreigners are treated with sub-par service in Japanese shoe stores. Maybe cuz they don't speak English?
Trading Post is known to have one of the highest customer retention rate (50%) in the industry btw biggrin.gif

Their own branded shoes are made by Central Shoes. Soffice & Solid branded shoes are made by Union Imperial.

If you're looking for Carmina, Allen Edmonds, Saint Crispins, Riccardo Bestetti in Japan, Trading Post is the best bet.
post #10943 of 12618
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Never bought from them, but I have chatted with their staffs for a few occasions.
Yes, kinda sad but definitely not surprised how foreigners or perceived foreigners are treated with sub-par service in Japanese shoe stores. Maybe cuz they don't speak English?
Trading Post is known to have one of the highest customer retention rate (50%) in the industry btw biggrin.gif

Their own branded shoes are made by Central Shoes. Soffice & Solid branded shoes are made by Union Imperial.

If you're looking for Carmina, Allen Edmonds, Saint Crispins, Riccardo Bestetti in Japan, Trading Post is the best bet.

I rarely get bad service in Japan. Have you been to Washington in Ginza? Now that is a shoe store, and the service is typical old world Japanese service.

Also Lloyd is excellent.
post #10944 of 12618
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Originally Posted by nutcracker View Post

Jalan shoes are hand lasted, hand welted, but the soles are machine stitched. They call it 'Handwelted Goodyear' construction. Strange name

They are made by Fortuna shoes in Indonesia as mentioned above, and I believe the brand was originally a joint venture with GMT (possibly GMT supplying design). Fortuna also OEMs for Italian brands.

They are sold in Japan and now Korea, and I dont think they are available in hometown Indonesia.

There is a big article on Jalan Sriwijaya shoes on the Spring 2012 LAST magazine.

Yes sounds strange, do they use gemming?
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post #10946 of 12618
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Originally Posted by Fang66 View Post

I rarely get bad service in Japan. Have you been to Washington in Ginza? Now that is a shoe store, and the service is typical old world Japanese service.

Also Lloyd is excellent.

Yes, Washington has been selling shoes for 80 years, good to hear that they manage to upkeep their old school service. I know they have Chinese sales staffs to accommodate shoppers from China smile.gif

100% agree about Lloyd. They're shoes are made in England, but they (the company / brand) is based in Japan. So somehow, they can keep the price quite reasonable. I assume they import the shoes as 'materials?' and package them in Japan?
post #10947 of 12618
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Yes sounds strange, do they use gemming?

No gemming (glued ribs), they are handsewn welted

I suppose 'Goodyear Welted' is still perceived as a sign of good quality shoes
post #10948 of 12618
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Originally Posted by nutcracker View Post

Yes, Washington has been selling shoes for 80 years, good to hear that they manage to upkeep their old school service. I know they have Chinese sales staffs to accommodate shoppers from China smile.gif

100% agree about Lloyd. They're shoes are made in England, but they (the company / brand) is based in Japan. So somehow, they can keep the price quite reasonable. I assume they import the shoes as 'materials?' and package them in Japan?


I may well be wrong, but I thought that Lloyd was a German company.

They are a popular shoe in upmarket department stores in Australia. Unfortunately, however, Lloyd make a few different lines and it's the cheaply-made, poor quality line that is sold in Australia, albeit at the sort of prices that would get you C&J benchgrade in most other parts of the world - cemented soles made of rubber with a leather piece stuck to the bottom, fabric lining that wears through quickly and so on.
post #10949 of 12618
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Originally Posted by Journeyman View Post

I may well be wrong, but I thought that Lloyd was a German company.

They are a popular shoe in upmarket department stores in Australia. Unfortunately, however, Lloyd make a few different lines and it's the cheaply-made, poor quality line that is sold in Australia, albeit at the sort of prices that would get you C&J benchgrade in most other parts of the world - cemented soles made of rubber with a leather piece stuck to the bottom, fabric lining that wears through quickly and so on.

confusing but they are completely different company. Lloyd Footwear (in Japan) sells English shoes. Some say that the Japanese owner was a fan of Lloyd Jennings shoes, and named the store after him.
post #10950 of 12618
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Originally Posted by nutcracker View Post


Never bought from them, but I have chatted with their staffs for a few occasions.
Yes, kinda sad but definitely not surprised how foreigners or perceived foreigners are treated with sub-par service in Japanese shoe stores. Maybe cuz they don't speak English?
Trading Post is known to have one of the highest customer retention rate (50%) in the industry btw biggrin.gif

Their own branded shoes are made by Central Shoes. Soffice & Solid branded shoes are made by Union Imperial.

If you're looking for Carmina, Allen Edmonds, Saint Crispins, Riccardo Bestetti in Japan, Trading Post is the best bet.

I find that Japanese stores will be reluctant to talk to me at first because they perceive that I do not speak Japanese (from being a foreigner. In Norway that would be like speaking to any black person in English. I would be deemed a racist instantly). When I speak to them in Japanese they are more helpful than I could possibly expect. I personally think it´s just a matter of language. Now, when it comes to Japanese perceiving foreigners unable to speak Japanese, I think that relates to simple stupidity, rather than intentional prejudice. I think many just don´t know any better. 

 

Brought my girlfriend and my mum to Trading Post in Tenjin yesterday. They were more than helpful to help us. My mum didn´t find any shoes that fit (only mens), and my girlfriend wasn´t tried on 10 different pairs of Carminas. We left after an hour without buying anything, but I´m sure they´ll treat me with the same respect they always do. The only other place in Fukuoka I´ve found good shoes so far is Iwataya, and they´re a lot less friendly there. (apart from the MTO/bespoke suit store maybe). If any of you know a good place in Fukuoka for shoes, I´d love to get some tips! Specially if they have my size!

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