i don't know the model number but they're the superfine trunk, they're not really short but not long like boxer briefs which I can't stand. Feel like velvet on my balls. Got a shitload from south willard several years back and when I ordered them direct that's when they had changed them. They're by far my favorite and I've been looking for something as good for a long time now. I'll just buy more schiessers but they're a bit too thick and don't last as long.
ss12 look38 hakamas type2 iteration (if i'm not mistaken) in brown with black pinstripes, cotton blend so much stiffer than the jersey cotton which felt like it was going to disintegrate each time i wore it. of course that limits the flowing elegance but not to any debilitating degree.
perfect for ending the summer if i can pull them off properly.