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I like ... the sound the page makes when you turn it and using old postcards for bookmarks makes me happy
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Something very quaint about this conversation being carried out by prolific Internet message board posters
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i like real books too but i don't see why people are so insistent on them being better.

Yeah.

I like the idea of keeping a personal library of all the books I've loved and scribbled all over. And I'm becoming more of a luddite every year. And there's reasons I can't really put into words that are probably irrational. Is there an e-reader equivalent of drawing smiley faces in the margins? How much do online books cost? I refuse to investigate these things because I fear change.

I could see myself falling in love with an e-reader if I bought one though. Having a dictionary installed sounds really great for harder authors and foreign languages.
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Okay, here goes.

Aside from Fok’s point already made about smell, there’s the feel, as others have touched on (sorry, puns rule). I like dog earing my books. I like feeling the heft of a Russian classic. I also like annotating books and enjoy deciphering the cursive script of who knows who from who knows when along the margins of a faintly ochered page culled from the stacks of a campus library.

So what do I get in exchange for these two vastly critical elements of a real book? I get convenience. Convenience for me, sure. But also convenience for the people who want me to buy more books. I really don’t care that I can download the complete Mark Twain library for only $2 (which incidentally feels like an insult to Mark Twain). No, what I’m giving up is more than money. I’m giving up data that will be used to market more books to me. More books that I won’t read and I don’t really want. Kind of like all the albums on my itunes. Except an e-book isn’t like itunes; you can’t just parse together all the stuff you really like and make a playlist.

But some people would disagree. About the parsing part. And it’s not customers. In essence when you download a book you’re basically letting quite a few greedy folks stand over your shoulder while you read whatever they’ve sold you. Yes. I don’t blame them. If I were trying to sell you books I would be very interested to know what pages you highlight, what sections you return to again and again, what words you look up, and so forth. You know, in order to hone what suggestions I make for you to purchase next. The only thing better would be to have some way of taking an EEG reading while you ‘enjoy’ my product that we both find so mutually convenient. Then I could really zero in on what emotes and what doesn’t for you. And all of it I’ll market under some greasy euphemism like ‘getting to know our readers’ or ‘building relationships’.


Actual books on the other hand are not as insidious. They just take up space. And unless you’re still one of those people who buys titles and then puts them in certain highly visible spots in your place in order to bed girls (which by the way e-books fail completely at) chances are by the time you’re out of college and have moved a few times, you’re going to think twice about what titles you pick up. Duh, that’s why there’s libraries.

So yeah. I take real books. No question.
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Something very quaint about this conversation being carried out by prolific Internet message board posters

"underrated post"
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not really quaint at all
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I like books because I see it as an escape from the electronics we occupy ourselves so much with. I'm sick of seeing laptop and tablets floating around all the time. No reason for be to have 50 books on hand or however many as I only need one or two at a time to read.
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I like being able to read the terrible 800 page sci-fi books I'm into without my arms getting tired 15 minutes into the book

If you're in a New York coffee shop reading all 400 pages of the latest Zadie Smith novel or whatever I hear ya but I don't wanna be seen reading something shaped like a brick called A DEEPNESS IN THE SKY with a picture of a spaceship on it in public

That, and the nearest Half-Price Books is across the Pacific Ocean



Also, eBooks are adding more social aspects to reading that are way cooler than a couple discolored pages and highlighted words from some undergrad somewhere. I'm sure it annoys some people, but the option to see what passages other readers have highlighted in eBooks is definitely one reason I enjoy reading on my Kindle. I'm sure further advances to e-reader technology is going keep changing the ways we enjoy books in a positive direction.
Edited by nicelynice - 2/16/13 at 12:46am
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Usually when people can only come up with sentimental reasons as for why something should not be replaced by new technologies, chances are pretty high that it's gonna be replaced.
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i like real books too but i don't see why people are so insistent on them being better. you can say "it's the feel" or "the smell" or whatever, but it's mainly the fact that we were raised with them that i think people want to keep using them. if a kid was raised with only an e-reader he would probably use those very same points if the reverse happened and society was transitioning from e-books to physical books. i would buy an e-reader but economically a physical book still usually makes more sense (especially with reselling), and e-readers will likely be fully integrated into other mobile technology very soon (they sort of already have - just not that well).

I can't read more than 10 or 15 pages on an e-reader without it becoming tiring.
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There is a danger in being trapped in the filter bubble that technology can put you in, when you are served only the things that marketers/algorithms think you like. The randomness and serendipity of life is what makes it interesting. Check out this piece on how Google is already "personalizing" their screens based on search prefrence and starting to send people down that road:

http://www.psfk.com/2011/06/are-your-search-preferences-negatively-limiting-your-results.html
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Also, eBooks are adding more social aspects to reading that are way cooler than a couple discolored pages and highlighted words from some undergrad somewhere. I'm sure it annoys some people, but the option to see what passages other readers have highlighted in eBooks is definitely one reason I enjoy reading on my Kindle. I'm sure further advances to e-reader technology is going keep changing the ways we enjoy books in a positive direction.

Seeing other people's highlighted passages is the most incredibly horrific thing to happen to book-reading since ever. I have absolutely no desire to see which exact lines of mindless drivel the hordes of unwashed masses have decided are somehow relevant to their pathetic lives. Someone tell me how to turn that shit off.

I am a book (object) person, but having texts available for free, instantly, with the ability to search and highlight is invaluable. And, while I am a book (object) person, I am not a clutter person, and I am definitely at a point in my life where I am very thankful for opportunities to not-accumulate. When I have the luxury of time and space, I absolutely prefer books, but when I am reading 4 novels on a travel day, or need to lug articles and notepads and everything else I own around, or simply don't want to carry things, the iPad is pretty tough to argue with.
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After you finish reading a book just give it to someone else. If you feel like reading it again in 6 months, a year, ten years buy another copy. Clutter solved.
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This stupid argument came up at least once a quarter while in college.

It's ok guys, we can still have both books and ereaders ffffuuuu.gif

serious though, everyone has their own preferences. don't see anything wrong with liking one over the other.
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just bough a pair of square aviators from burberry...  happy with the purchase.

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