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Well, it usually says "Edited by..."

Anyway, I have a host of new mod tools, and Iroh has been officially banned from CE, permanently. iirc, he cannot even see the contents of the forum.
post #9122 of 14741
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Originally Posted by mordecai View Post

The only posts I've altered are either blatantly racist (a few irohs and one or two others several months ago) or ones that run along the lines of "x user, I disagree with you and also fuck your wife and children." If I do that I usually alter the posts that quoted it too. I've really only had to do this maybe a dozen times total since I started modding. The person whose posts are deleted are generally told as well. I am not altering the content of CE, and I actually don't recall editing anything that Bhowie posted. I also rely on notifications and private messages for mod questions. I don't check this thread all the time, so if you want an answer to something just send me a message.

No need to notify me when you edit my posts as I was probably drunk and don't remember posting it. No harm, no foul.
post #9123 of 14741
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

Well, it usually says "Edited by..."
Anyway, I have a host of new mod tools, and Iroh has been officially banned from CE, permanently. iirc, he cannot even see the contents of the forum.

Exactly. There are some smokey things w/r/t timing on a post*. But for the most part, whenever a mod edits a post, it will say "edited by kwilkinson at 330 pm, 3/25/12.










*I know I'm not the only one who noticed it, but if someone posts a post that says purely ".." or "edited" that doesn't generally say at the bottom "edited by XXX on XXXX". I'd personally be interested in the timing of those rules. I.E. if I post something at 4:52 pm, but nobody reads it, and I edit it at 4:58 pm, does it still say edited by kwilk or does it say nothing? I'm just confused sometimes by that. I don't know if the "edited on" tag becomes visible after a certain time span, or if it becomes visible after a certain number of views, etc.
post #9124 of 14741
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

Well, it usually says "Edited by..."
Anyway, I have a host of new mod tools, and Iroh has been officially banned from CE, permanently. iirc, he cannot even see the contents of the forum.

Ah, we didn't get to the catastrophic natural disaster level rant spree that was brewing frown.gif
post #9125 of 14741
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

Well, it usually says "Edited by..."
Anyway, I have a host of new mod tools, and Iroh has been officially banned from CE, permanently. iirc, he cannot even see the contents of the forum.
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

Ah, we didn't get to the catastrophic natural disaster level rant spree that was brewing frown.gif

Yes. That is usually the case and is what I had meant. I wasn't sure if that had changed. Also, not sure what happens if posts are deleted (as opposed to spaminated, which disappear with no trace).
post #9126 of 14741
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Originally Posted by kwilkinson View Post

Exactly. There are some smokey things w/r/t timing on a post*. But for the most part, whenever a mod edits a post, it will say "edited by kwilkinson at 330 pm, 3/25/12.
*I know I'm not the only one who noticed it, but if someone posts a post that says purely ".." or "edited" that doesn't generally say at the bottom "edited by XXX on XXXX". I'd personally be interested in the timing of those rules. I.E. if I post something at 4:52 pm, but nobody reads it, and I edit it at 4:58 pm, does it still say edited by kwilk or does it say nothing? I'm just confused sometimes by that. I don't know if the "edited on" tag becomes visible after a certain time span, or if it becomes visible after a certain number of views, etc.

10 minutes is the cut off for a ninja edit to go unmarked.
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Oh, I forgot to mention that I've taken over the former moderator's job of switching the text of all of iammatt and edinatlanta's posts.
post #9128 of 14741
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Originally Posted by MrG View Post

I understand what you're saying, and forgive me if I'm overstepping my bounds on the whole "don't fight the moderators" rule around here. However, I have a very serious problem with the idea that our posts are now subject to editing by a mod whenever that mod deems it appropriate. Your intent may be otherwise noble, but the execution is sorely lacking. It's one thing if it happens as an occasional joke in DT, but I find it objectionable that you're basically saying you're willing to change our words without any indication to others (or the poster whose words you've changed) that such a thing has happened.
What you're saying about not making a big deal about every deletion makes perfect sense, but it took repeated appeals for an answer before we got one regarding the posts that were deleted, including at least one from someone who had their post deleted. "We do this discretely on occasion" is reasonable to me, but we asked repeatedly what happened to iroh's posts, and Bhowie asked specifically about his own post. Avoiding public shame seems like a pretty flimsy defense when it was already out in public view.

A big +1 to this. Also, since when are we getting rid of racists and bigots en mass? I don't want a completely sterilized conversation. If someone's a racist, it doesn't necessarily mean they can't make good points. Are we such children that we can't wade through a little bit of nastiness every now and then?
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Originally Posted by Rambo View Post

A big +1 to this. Also, since when are we getting rid of racists and bigots en mass? I don't want a completely sterilized conversation. If someone's a racist, it doesn't necessarily mean they can't make good points. Are we such children that we can't wade through a little bit of nastiness every now and then?

+1 in general. I think it's generally good to get exposed to these really outrageous asshole views on forums like CE as long as they're civil about it. Rarely get an opportunity to discuss that sort of thing in real life.

iroh didn't seem to be making any attempt to make serious discussion though, so it's probably best to just ban him.
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I sometimes edit people's posts for grammar. Usually LA Guy's or edmorel's.
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Originally Posted by emptym View Post

I sometimes edit people's posts for grammar. Usually LA Guy's or edmorel's.

grammar nazi crusader smile.gif
post #9132 of 14741
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Originally Posted by mordecai View Post

Oh, I forgot to mention that I've taken over the former moderator's job of switching the text of all of iammatt and edinatlanta's posts.

Joke's on you dumbass. Now you've got to read all my shit.

test
Edited by edinatlanta - 3/27/12 at 5:55am
post #9133 of 14741
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Originally Posted by dopey View Post

I think it would be a good policy if Mods noted when they made an edit or deletion in the place they did it, even if it doesn't warrant a mention here. That way, to overdramatize things, there is no sense that an invisible black van is coming in the moddle of the night (SWIDT) to disappear posters and their posts. Forums benefit if people feel that they are being treated fairly and they see the rules being enforced in public rather than in secret.
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

Well, it usually says "Edited by..."
Anyway, I have a host of new mod tools, and Iroh has been officially banned from CE, permanently. iirc, he cannot even see the contents of the forum.
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Originally Posted by kwilkinson View Post

Exactly. There are some smokey things w/r/t timing on a post*. But for the most part, whenever a mod edits a post, it will say "edited by kwilkinson at 330 pm, 3/25/12.
*I know I'm not the only one who noticed it, but if someone posts a post that says purely ".." or "edited" that doesn't generally say at the bottom "edited by XXX on XXXX". I'd personally be interested in the timing of those rules. I.E. if I post something at 4:52 pm, but nobody reads it, and I edit it at 4:58 pm, does it still say edited by kwilk or does it say nothing? I'm just confused sometimes by that. I don't know if the "edited on" tag becomes visible after a certain time span, or if it becomes visible after a certain number of views, etc.
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Originally Posted by dopey View Post

Yes. That is usually the case and is what I had meant. I wasn't sure if that had changed. Also, not sure what happens if posts are deleted (as opposed to spaminated, which disappear with no trace).

I was under the impression that the new system doesn't show the "edited by..." when a mod makes the change. I believe that was the cause of great consternation when the Great DT Voting Prank occurred. A lot of the srs bidness types got upset when their DT posts were changed, and the mod in question didn't realize his changes didn't show up as edits. If I'm wrong on that, apologies, as such a tag would go a long way toward mitigating that particular concern.

And I agree with Dopey's posts - it would be great if there were something to show when a post was deleted, even if it's an in-line "post deleted by mod" type of thing.
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Originally Posted by emptym View Post

I sometimes edit people's posts for grammar. Usually LA Guy's or edmorel's.

I support this initiative wholeheartedly.
post #9134 of 14741
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Originally Posted by emptym View Post

I sometimes edit people's posts for grammar. Usually LA Guy's or edmorel's.

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how bout spelling?
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Originally Posted by acidboy View Post

grammar nazi crusader smile.gif
I have problems.
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Originally Posted by MrG View Post

I was under the impression that the new system doesn't show the "edited by..." when a mod makes the change. I believe that was the cause of great consternation when the Great DT Voting Prank occurred. A lot of the srs bidness types got upset when their DT posts were changed, and the mod in question didn't realize his changes didn't show up as edits. If I'm wrong on that, apologies, as such a tag would go a long way toward mitigating that particular concern.
And I agree with Dopey's posts - it would be great if there were something to show when a post was deleted, even if it's an in-line "post deleted by mod" type of thing.
I support this initiative wholeheartedly.
My understanding too was that the new system doesn't indicate when a mod has edited, but I could be wrong. Imo, it's a good idea to have a line saying "post deleted by mod" too.

Earlier someone wrote that he thought mods report all action here. I certainly don't do that. I only respond to questions here. But like mordecai, if I edit or delete posts by someone else, I pm the person (except spammers or double-posts, of course). That happens maybe once every other week. Usually I don't edit rude posts myself but just pm the person and ask that him/her to edit the post. That happens very rarely, like once a month and usually it's been reported by several other members. I think that's all standard policy.
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

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how bout spelling?
Not that I can recall. Although, once or twice, I've changed "alot" to "a lot." There's no such word as "alot," people!
While I'm ranting, American English usually puts the comma and period within the quotation marks, as above.
Of course, I'm sure I make mistakes at times, and I would love to be corrected. I don't want to be a bad example to the chidrenz.
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