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While small ethnic groups may vary somewhat, the declining number of elderly people living with their families is a (dis?)function of public policy, and is widely acknowledged to be so.
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Originally Posted by itsstillmatt View Post

While small ethnic groups may vary somewhat, the declining number of elderly people living with their families is a (dis?)function of public policy, and is widely acknowledged to be so.

Interested to hear how this is so.

(Seriously, not trying to trollbait here or anything, am genuinely curious)
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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post

Interested to hear how this is so.

(Seriously, not trying to trollbait here or anything, am genuinely curious)

For 70 years we have told people in their working ages that they are fulfilling their duties to their elders by paying a certain kind of tax. If anything, we have continued to reinforce this message by pandering to the older demographic through other programs simply because they vote more, which identifies them as a group with excess power. Those two together have destroyed the traditional societal mandate to take care of your own elders. We tell people they have already done it, or even that somebody else is doing it, and that the elderly are powerful enough to get what they want without help.
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Interesting, not sure I've ever looked at it that way. There are obviously a litany of problems around that whole process, but I don't think I've ever considered this as one of them.
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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post

Interesting, not sure I've ever looked at it that way. There are obviously a litany of problems around that whole process, but I don't think I've ever considered this as one of them.

It's only a problem if you think it is one. A lot of people look at it as elderly independence.
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Originally Posted by itsstillmatt View Post

It's only a problem if you think it is one. A lot of people look at it as elderly independence.

Independence up to a point. I'm fine with able bodied elders living on their own if that's what they want to do. Go for it. I have more of a problem with elders who cannot live on their own, but do not yet have enough medical problems to really require being put in a home, being put in horrible assisted living places because their children don't want the inconvenience of having them live with them.

At some point, many people have enough medical problems to warrant a serious assisted living situation, but prolonging that as long as possible is a good thing, IMO. Those places are for the most part awful.
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More on topic, damn there are a lot of bugs with the site right now frown.gif
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I think cultural attitudes towards the nature of familial relationships are also a factor. Perhaps this was some of the impetus behind the need to provide such services.
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This really has no place here but anyway America seems to be the only country where families are expected to cut each other off from 18-death. The fact that people my age have to move back in with their parents when just starting their careers is seen as this horrible thing is obscene. I think its good for the country and good for families. Why waste 1/2 of your entry level salary on city rent when you could live at a home for a year or two and build a savings base?


Edited by EMartNJ - 12/12/13 at 9:56am
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back to the subscriptions thing. so now, in every thread, the reply box has auto-checked to be subscribed if you post in it. and even if i uncheck it, when i return to the thread, its checked again. any way to make the default unchecked and unsubscribed?


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EMart - i lived at my parents until i was married, and then a few years into marriage we moved back in with 2 kids for a year, while our house was being built.
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People also are living a lot longer which complicates things, I would think. My dad is 77 and his mother is 96 and they both have health issues. There is a lot of extended family around to help but if I was obligated to take both of them in to my home it would be very difficult, in terms of living space just for starters. But to Matt's point, if we didn't know they were going to be getting SS and medicare we'd have planned for them differently long ago.
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Originally Posted by EMartNJ View Post

This really has no place here but anyway America seems to be the only country where families are expected to cut each other off from 18-death. The fact that people my age have to move back in with their parents when just starting their careers is seen as this horrible thing. I think its good for the country and good for families. Why waste 1/2 of your entry level salary on city rent when you could live at a home for a year or two and build a savings base?

I consider paying my own rent a sign of being a grown up.

In my case, a habitual drunkard of a grown up but a grown up nonetheless.
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I would live with my parents if it meant I got to live in their house.
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I could write pages, in several different domains, on the current topic.
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@manton, meaning, as opposed to living with them in your house?
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