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post #12601 of 14833
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Originally Posted by E,TF View Post

I've had them in the UK. Pio is right, if you hover over the top banner ad too long (like half a second instead of quarter of a second), a whole page thing pops up. Very annoying.

Technically, it's supposed to be a full three second hover, but there are bugs with the system. The frequency that these ads appear is very, very, low, which explains why a lot of you guys have not seen the ads at all. I am in sort of a precarious situation right now (it happens more frequently than you know and that I want), so I'm going to ask you to hang in with me.
post #12602 of 14833
The Nike ad at least starts playing music for three seconds before the full-screen pop-up happens.
post #12603 of 14833
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Originally Posted by sugarbutch View Post

The Nike ad at least starts playing music for three seconds before the full-screen pop-up happens.

Sort of a wierd compromise, I know. It's like, either you get a warning that's not that most pleasant sound, or you don't, and it's like "bam".

Anyway, the story is that our hosting partners decided to team up with SAY Media, which, from what I've been told, wants to learn how to do integrated advertising and marketing, and is going to learn these things from Huddler. The affiliate threads (which we've had since 2005), for example, allow you to interact with vendors and brands directly, and a lot of our members elect to do so, but if you don't want to, your reading and posting enjoyment is not impaired in any way. Of course, in the tech industry, they always have name everything, and the term "native advertising" is what this type of thing got called it after Facebook and others decided that they'd invent something that has been going on on much smaller platforms for a long time.

Back to the point, SAY media also got the lion's share of the banner space on the site. There are fewer banner ads now, and the pages load faster (hope you guys have noticed that) because there doesn't need to be a bidding process, and then loading from different networks, etc... All good, right?

Of course, there is always a price to be paid, and well, you guys found out what it was pretty much the same time as did I. I've been on this for a while now. I've gotten all audio except for the countdown taken down, and I've been assured that the frequency cap is as tight right now as it can be made. There are glitches though. For example, if you scroll over a banner, and commence the countdown, and go to another tab, the software doesn't detect that, and it keeps the countdown going. That is what Piobaire saw. Obviously, this is not cool, and it's being worked out. You can also opt out of the ads by going to the website through the ad. I haven't tested this, for obvious reasons - the captain is also the guinea pig.

Anyway, I hope that you guys will bear with me as we get all the kinks worked out. I've got no interest in seeing you guys blowing up full page ads by mistake. I'm sure you can figure out from looking at other sites that we've left considerable money on the table because we are not interested in maxing out revenues at the expense of our community.

Cheers,

Fok.
post #12604 of 14833
gmail has been reporting that PM emails are suspicious and flagging them as spam recently.
post #12605 of 14833
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Originally Posted by VLSI View Post

gmail has been reporting that PM emails are suspicious and flagging them as spam recently.

Okay, I'll report that. It was doing it to me as well, but I thought that I just had the security set super high. Could you tell me about when this started happening to you?

Thanks,

Fok.
post #12606 of 14833
Some time between March 24 and 26 based on my emails.
post #12607 of 14833
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

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Originally Posted by E,TF View Post

I've had them in the UK. Pio is right, if you hover over the top banner ad too long (like half a second instead of quarter of a second), a whole page thing pops up. Very annoying.

Technically, it's supposed to be a full three second hover, but there are bugs with the system. The frequency that these ads appear is very, very, low, which explains why a lot of you guys have not seen the ads at all. I am in sort of a precarious situation right now (it happens more frequently than you know and that I want), so I'm going to ask you to hang in with me.

Ok. Once you know what triggers them it's easy enough to avoid, but the proximity of those adds to the subscriptions and PM inbox buttons still means one can trigger it accidentally sometimes. Maybe if those sort of ads could be limited to the sidebar? Of perhaps the subscriptions/inbox buttons could be moved somewhere else (over to the left maybe)?
post #12608 of 14833
I disabled my extensions just to see what you guys were complaining about. Seriously, just install some ad blockers into your browser and problem solved.

Before:

After:


I do need some new running shoes though peepwall[1].gif
post #12609 of 14833
Well i have adblock on chrome, but sometimes I use safari without it. Also, intrusive/annoying ads should be of concern to SF's owners anyway because if they are too intrusive and annoying they may deter new visitors who don't use adblock. It'd obviously a fine line to tread.
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Originally Posted by sugarbutch View Post

The Nike ad at least starts playing music for three seconds before the full-screen pop-up happens.

I understand they need ad revenue, no issue there.

But recently I had my headphones on and my album had ended, it was perfectly still and quiet and BOOM a Philly Cream Cheese audio ad. It scared the shit out of me. The ads play at full volume too. IMO, no audio ads.
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

Okay, I'll report that. It was doing it to me as well, but I thought that I just had the security set super high. Could you tell me about when this started happening to you?
Thanks,
Fok.

i have been having the same. started march 28th.
post #12612 of 14833
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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post

I understand they need ad revenue, no issue there.

But recently I had my headphones on and my album had ended, it was perfectly still and quiet and BOOM a Philly Cream Cheese audio ad. It scared the shit out of me. The ads play at full volume too. IMO, no audio ads.

Yeah, thanks for understanding. I am not sure exactly how the frequency capping and targeting works, but I do know that once you interact with the ads, you get more of them, because you are ostensibly interested in the content. I working hard to get the point across that accidental "engagements" have to be eliminated. I'm guessing that Philly Cream Cheese would not want to pay for people getting pissed off at them by mistake either.

Also, I believe that audio ads are supposed to be disabled for us, but I've been getting them too, after I explored a bunch of other sites to see what was going on, and obviously, clicked on a bunch of SAY media ads. So, targeting seems to trump the frequency caps and other restrictions. I'm literally a full intermediary removed from the actually ad service company, so I don't have anything close to a full understanding of what can and cannot be done, or honestly, even what has or has not been done.

Re. the placement of the ads, that's a good and reasonable request, and I'll ask about that.
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Well i have adblock on chrome, but sometimes I use safari without it. Also, intrusive/annoying ads should be of concern to SF's owners anyway because if they are too intrusive and annoying they may deter new visitors who don't use adblock. It'd obviously a fine line to tread.

Understatement of the day. There are a lot of issues (not just revenue, which really a very minor issue for this particular case) that I have to deal with daily.

I'm just brain-dumping so you guys have some idea of what I am trying to do, and hope that you guys will work with me.
post #12613 of 14833
Quick question
Where is the ARTICLES section? I can't seem to find it. Link please and Thank you!
post #12614 of 14833
Scroll to the bottom. We are trying to find better places to highlight them for when we get more useful articles in place.

Cheers,

Fok.
post #12615 of 14833
ok I see it ! Thanks L.A. I want to write a useful article or two.
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