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post #11506 of 14850
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

We disabled comments for thumbs. The thumb comments are not possible to moderate, and were making a "shadow forum" that was not helping the community at all. So, now they are gone. Us the thumbs up if you just want to say "good job on this post". For substantive comments, just use the quote function.
Cheers,
Fok.

thumbs up
post #11507 of 14850
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Originally Posted by VLSI View Post

Software developer working for a few hundred bucks? No.

i assume he meant as a favor, maybe someone the forum or something.
post #11508 of 14850
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Originally Posted by furo View Post

I'm glad the thumbs comments are gone. I haven't lurked in the SWD forums for months, but that's one of the reasons I stopped posting there - it was precisely because of the incessant trolling in the thumbs remarks. It was beyond 3rd gradeish, and that so many can willfully support it and promote its continued use says something right there.

that gun to your head forcing you to read the thumb comments was the worst part IMO
post #11509 of 14850
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Originally Posted by VLSI View Post

Software developer working for a few hundred bucks? No.

This. Brad, with all due respect - yes, it's true that you could get someone to do "something" for a few hundred dollars, but as in most things in life, you don't get more than you paid for. If you pay someone a few hundred dollars, you can expect that much accountability, zero QA/QC, and zero maintenance. A decent contractor costs about $4K/week, and that's nowhere near the top of the pay scale.
post #11510 of 14850
i can offer my thumb work for well under 4k/week. mwink[1].gif

plz dont ban me.
post #11511 of 14850
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Originally Posted by tropics View Post

that gun to your head forcing you to read the thumb comments was the worst part IMO

You're right, no one is forcing anyone to read anything, but by that logic, we should just let everything go. Our rules are as lax as they get this side of 4Chan and Reddit, but we gotta draw the line somewhere, and the ability to actually moderate the content is where we draw the line.
post #11512 of 14850
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

i can offer my thumb work for well under 4k/week. mwink[1].gif
plz dont ban me.

lol. There are several ways to interpret this, and I choose to interpret in the dirtiest way possible.
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post #11514 of 14850
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

This. Brad, with all due respect - yes, it's true that you could get someone to do "something" for a few hundred dollars, but as in most things in life, you don't get more than you paid for. If you pay someone a few hundred dollars, you can expect that much accountability, zero QA/QC, and zero maintenance. A decent contractor costs about $4K/week, and that's nowhere near the top of the pay scale.

The days of linuxguy after the Great Crash are truely over.
post #11515 of 14850
Why not just time out people? I mean, I realize that is more work for you guys, but some of the dudes here are acting like thumbs comments were the worst thing to happen to SF, which isn't true. Almost all of the thumbs comments I have seen on SWD, save for a very small number, were light hearted and in-line with everything else, and I really think the thumbs comments were much more beneficial than detrimental.

And if these comments were as scathing as some people are crying about here, then a time-out for them is in order anyways right? It seems like only a handful of people were actually abusing it. Lord knows there are a few people that need the time off in SWD lately.
post #11516 of 14850

Fok,

 

After a few weeks, please give us a second chance. As you said, the moderators can't really moderate the thumbs. The only thing you guys can really do is take the thumb comments away in response. But there is a middle ground between doing nothing and permanently removing the feature. The offenders now know what they will do has consequences, consequences that will hurt the forum as a whole. Their shadow forum has been brought to light. Perhaps this is enough to get them to self-police.

 

If it isn't, then nuke the comments.

 

But give folks a second chance. The benefits outlined by SVB warrant that, and unless a lot of coding is involved to allow comments (and then remove them again if necessary), I can't see any real harm or cost.

 

I only really post in MC and GC (and occasionally DT shog[1].gif), where the comments, especially in MC, have been very helpful. Perhaps some truly evil things were being said in SW&D, things bad enough that you guys don't want to risk them being said again. Regardless, please at least consider the possibility of returning comments to us in a week or so.

 

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EDIT

Dredd let Rob Schneider's character live, and that worked out well for Dredd.

post #11517 of 14850
Fok, what about just reducing the character count for thumbs comments? I always found them oddly long given the nature of what I assumed should go there. Like you could post "nice shirt" but anything longer, you'd have to post.
post #11518 of 14850
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Originally Posted by furo View Post

I'm glad the thumbs comments are gone.

Agreed. This just became another outlet for snark. Thumbs up should be no more than a way to eliminate all the +1 comments. If you have something to say, why not just reply? And we used the fora for years without the thumbs up, suddenly its a big deal?

The way its functioning now is good.


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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

This. Brad, with all due respect - yes, it's true that you could get someone to do "something" for a few hundred dollars, but as in most things in life, you don't get more than you paid for. If you pay someone a few hundred dollars, you can expect that much accountability, zero QA/QC, and zero maintenance. A decent contractor costs about $4K/week, and that's nowhere near the top of the pay scale.

Having worked in IT for the last 20 yrs, 4k a week is about right for web based work. The idea you can do it for a few hundred bucks is laughable. When you reach a critical mass of users, you need to invest in professionals. This is not 1998 where interns build your site. Users have experience on the web and expectations.

One mod I would like to suggest is to have quoted comments for people you ignore also blocked out. In addition, when you click on 'my posts' and see the run down of your threads, if the last person that posted is on ignore, you still see the first x characters of their reply. I'd like to see that blocked as well.
post #11519 of 14850
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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post

One mod I would like to suggest is to have quoted comments for people you ignore also blocked out. In addition, when you click on 'my posts' and see the run down of your threads, if the last person that posted is on ignore, you still see the first x characters of their reply. I'd like to see that blocked as well.

Or just have their posts marked as auto-read. This seems like the easiest solution. I'd imagine not bumping the thread in your sub queue is harder, but having it marked read so the thread title won't appear bolded should be an easy fix. (you would still see the characters though... not sure why those few characters would offend though)
post #11520 of 14850
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Originally Posted by VLSI View Post

Fok, what about just reducing the character count for thumbs comments? I always found them oddly long given the nature of what I assumed should go there. Like you could post "nice shirt" but anything longer, you'd have to post.

 

All good but burn the tie
Great shirt tie combo, dont know about the PS

Stitchy, your beard is manly and fragrant

Dbl monks are too casual for that fit

 

Seems like 50-75 characters could do the trick. But I'm sure it's possible to be hurtful in 50 characters

 

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