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post #97366 of 117670
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Originally Posted by nahneun View Post

here's a better question: why would i disclose my personal information to you?

because you're so quick to condemn others for their personal choices. tit for tat. if your issue with obesity is that it's a public health epidemic, that's all well and good, but if you're simply angry that you might have to pay to support fat people's medical care with your tax dollars, then that's a different story. how do I know you're not using my tax dollars to go to school? why are you suddenly the arbiter of what's 'useful' spending and what's not? is it better to pay for quadruple bypass surgery, or to subsidize someone's english degree?
post #97367 of 117670
Come on teger you're in academia it's like right behind the military industrial complex and big agra in terms of benefiting from government policy.

Our tax dollars are paying for the subsidized student loans that allow the runaway inflation in tuition that pays your salary. Plus your employer has to pay like 0 taxes.
post #97368 of 117670
and that's why i'm not agreeing with nahneun's argument.

like i said, obesity is definitely a public health epidemic and needs to be addressed. but the motivation behind this need shouldn't be 'lets save tax $s', it should be 'we don't want to be a nation of obese people who drop dead of heart attacks at age 35'

a lot of the thin privilege/fat hate arguments are fucking stupid and ridiculous, but nahneun's argument here is just as retarded. it also has nothing to do with breezy's original post, which isn't even about obesity.
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why shouldn't i be concerned where my tax dollars are being spent? how is that not a socioeconomic concern when we could be allocating those funds for a better purpose because people are stupid with their health?

i'd rather pay for your history degree with my tax dollars than pay for an obese dude's surgery (even if the value added is questionable). also don't worry, i went to a private university. but basically, what you're telling me is that if you can be mad at me if your taxes went to pay for my possible public education, i can DEFINITELY be angry at you for going to a public university? foo.gif
post #97371 of 117670
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Originally Posted by nahneun View Post

why shouldn't i be concerned where my tax dollars are being spent? how is that not a socioeconomic concern when we could be allocating those funds for a better purpose? i'd rather pay for your history degree with my tax dollars than pay for an obese dude's surgery. also don't worry, i went to a private university. but basically, what you're telling me is that if you can be mad at me if your taxes went to pay for my possible public education, i can DEFINITELY be angry at you for going to a public university? foo.gif

first, no university is truly private, every university is subsidized to some extent through government funding, either directly or indirectly. this funding can even be as far removed as the ability for students to borrow money at lower rates than they would find on the open market.

you can concerned with how your tax dollars are being spent, but there's a difference between this concern and using perceived financial burden to social services as a metric to determine an individual's worth. you want fat people to lose weight so you pay less money in taxes. but what if someone is both fat and rich? is it ok for them to be fat? you seem to have no concern for the health of these individuals beyond the financial consequence their life inflicts on our health care system. that's pretty shitty dude, very dehumanizing.
post #97372 of 117670
Holy shit. Taxation is not supposed to benefit the person who pays it, personally. It is meant to create societal services, safety nets, and a better society and life for everyone, in a distributed general way. People getting mad that they don't always get as much or more out of the system than they personally pay in is what leads to stupid fucks like Ayn Rand.
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Finally, another SF'er who sees through Ayn Rand. fing02[1].gif

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post #97374 of 117670
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Originally Posted by fireflygrave View Post

Holy shit. Taxation is not supposed to benefit the person who pays it, personally. It is meant to create societal services, safety nets, and a better society and life for everyone, in a distributed general way. People getting mad that they don't always get as much or more out of the system than they personally pay in is what leads to stupid fucks like Ayn Rand.

i see your location says you're in memphis, but you must be scandinavian, or at least canadian. whatever the hell you are, keep your hands off my money and my guns.
post #97375 of 117670
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Originally Posted by Teger View Post

first, no university is truly private, every university is subsidized to some extent through government funding, either directly or indirectly. this funding can even be as far removed as the ability for students to borrow money at lower rates than they would find on the open market.

you can concerned with how your tax dollars are being spent, but there's a difference between this concern and using perceived financial burden to social services as a metric to determine an individual's worth. you want fat people to lose weight so you pay less money in taxes. but what if someone is both fat and rich? is it ok for them to be fat? you seem to have no concern for the health of these individuals beyond the financial consequence their life inflicts on our health care system. that's pretty shitty dude, very dehumanizing.

no, i want fat people to lose weight so my tax dollars are better spent on more useful things to better society. i think you're more prone to condemn others than i am and you're quick to make assumptions about my posts without reading them through. but really, no surprises here that you do that.
post #97376 of 117670
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Originally Posted by pickpackpockpuck View Post

i see your location says you're in memphis, but you must be scandinavian, or at least canadian. whatever the hell you are, keep your hands off my money and my guns.

as a resident of new york, statistically you paid out about $4,000 more in taxes than you received in benefits in the form of federal spneding, so thanks icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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post #97378 of 117670
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Originally Posted by nahneun View Post

no, i want fat people to lose weight so my tax dollars are better spent on more useful things to better society. i think you're more prone to condemn others than i am and you're quick to make assumptions about my posts without reading them through. but really, no surprises here that you do that.

you're right, i have no idea where i got the impression that you only care about fat people inasmuch as they're a financial burden. oh wait..
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it's a public health concern because my tax dollars are now going to be spent paying for that 350 pound dude's quadruple bypass surgery instead of i don't know, being spent on education or something fucking useful... obese people need to make a concerted effort to control their weight because it's affecting our taxes.
post #97379 of 117670
I can't believe we're 40+ posts in about obesity and not once (not once!) has the resident body dysmorphia posterchild (me) not been mentioned, I almost feel bad about it

(But not really, lookin' pretty jacked today)
post #97380 of 117670
are you incapable of reading comprehension? how do you survive in academia?
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