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why shouldn't i be concerned where my tax dollars are being spent? how is that not a socioeconomic concern when we could be allocating those funds for a better purpose because people are stupid with their health?

i'd rather pay for your history degree with my tax dollars than pay for an obese dude's surgery (even if the value added is questionable). also don't worry, i went to a private university. but basically, what you're telling me is that if you can be mad at me if your taxes went to pay for my possible public education, i can DEFINITELY be angry at you for going to a public university? foo.gif
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Originally Posted by nahneun View Post

why shouldn't i be concerned where my tax dollars are being spent? how is that not a socioeconomic concern when we could be allocating those funds for a better purpose? i'd rather pay for your history degree with my tax dollars than pay for an obese dude's surgery. also don't worry, i went to a private university. but basically, what you're telling me is that if you can be mad at me if your taxes went to pay for my possible public education, i can DEFINITELY be angry at you for going to a public university? foo.gif

first, no university is truly private, every university is subsidized to some extent through government funding, either directly or indirectly. this funding can even be as far removed as the ability for students to borrow money at lower rates than they would find on the open market.

you can concerned with how your tax dollars are being spent, but there's a difference between this concern and using perceived financial burden to social services as a metric to determine an individual's worth. you want fat people to lose weight so you pay less money in taxes. but what if someone is both fat and rich? is it ok for them to be fat? you seem to have no concern for the health of these individuals beyond the financial consequence their life inflicts on our health care system. that's pretty shitty dude, very dehumanizing.
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Holy shit. Taxation is not supposed to benefit the person who pays it, personally. It is meant to create societal services, safety nets, and a better society and life for everyone, in a distributed general way. People getting mad that they don't always get as much or more out of the system than they personally pay in is what leads to stupid fucks like Ayn Rand.
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Finally, another SF'er who sees through Ayn Rand. fing02[1].gif

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(Though, OK, her book on objectivist epistemology was pretty good....)
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Originally Posted by fireflygrave View Post

Holy shit. Taxation is not supposed to benefit the person who pays it, personally. It is meant to create societal services, safety nets, and a better society and life for everyone, in a distributed general way. People getting mad that they don't always get as much or more out of the system than they personally pay in is what leads to stupid fucks like Ayn Rand.

i see your location says you're in memphis, but you must be scandinavian, or at least canadian. whatever the hell you are, keep your hands off my money and my guns.
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Originally Posted by Teger View Post

first, no university is truly private, every university is subsidized to some extent through government funding, either directly or indirectly. this funding can even be as far removed as the ability for students to borrow money at lower rates than they would find on the open market.

you can concerned with how your tax dollars are being spent, but there's a difference between this concern and using perceived financial burden to social services as a metric to determine an individual's worth. you want fat people to lose weight so you pay less money in taxes. but what if someone is both fat and rich? is it ok for them to be fat? you seem to have no concern for the health of these individuals beyond the financial consequence their life inflicts on our health care system. that's pretty shitty dude, very dehumanizing.

no, i want fat people to lose weight so my tax dollars are better spent on more useful things to better society. i think you're more prone to condemn others than i am and you're quick to make assumptions about my posts without reading them through. but really, no surprises here that you do that.
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Originally Posted by pickpackpockpuck View Post

i see your location says you're in memphis, but you must be scandinavian, or at least canadian. whatever the hell you are, keep your hands off my money and my guns.

as a resident of new york, statistically you paid out about $4,000 more in taxes than you received in benefits in the form of federal spneding, so thanks icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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Originally Posted by nahneun View Post

no, i want fat people to lose weight so my tax dollars are better spent on more useful things to better society. i think you're more prone to condemn others than i am and you're quick to make assumptions about my posts without reading them through. but really, no surprises here that you do that.

you're right, i have no idea where i got the impression that you only care about fat people inasmuch as they're a financial burden. oh wait..
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it's a public health concern because my tax dollars are now going to be spent paying for that 350 pound dude's quadruple bypass surgery instead of i don't know, being spent on education or something fucking useful... obese people need to make a concerted effort to control their weight because it's affecting our taxes.
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I can't believe we're 40+ posts in about obesity and not once (not once!) has the resident body dysmorphia posterchild (me) not been mentioned, I almost feel bad about it

(But not really, lookin' pretty jacked today)
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are you incapable of reading comprehension? how do you survive in academia?
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Originally Posted by reedobandito View Post

I can't believe we're 40+ posts in about obesity and not once (not once!) has the resident body dysmorphia posterchild (me) not been mentioned, I almost feel bad about it

(But not really, lookin' pretty jacked today)

look, all i know is that you better get a job and pay back your fucking stupid loans for law school
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As a thin person, he has a much better chance. peepwall[1].gif

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Only one thing can possibly save this thread, one man/entity/superbeing must save us from our own downward spiral into the depths of the underworld

Sipang, post a fit
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Originally Posted by nahneun View Post

are you incapable of reading comprehension? how do you survive in academia?

my issue (and an issue i imagine a fellow linguist shares) with your posts is that you give no indication that you care about the obesity epidemic beyond the financial consequences it has for our public health and social services system. i'm not going to parrot the argument put forth by fat advocates that obesity is a poor metric for determining health (which, I agree with you, is stupid), or that an individual's weight has zero impact on anyone but themselves, but i find it distasteful to completely remove the human element for the discussion.

obesity related health issues have real consequences on real people, above and beyond whatever their financial cost is. i want to confront obesity so fewer kids are obese and have to live shitty lives.

AFL is also correct that obesity is a societal problem and needs to be confronted as such, although you're correct that personal responsibility plays a key part. i don't think (as your posts seem to imply) is that it's as simple as fat people eating less.
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