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post #97366 of 117677
the public cost argument against obesity isn't particularly compelling. is it ok for someone who to be super obese if they pay a lot of money in taxes? how about you nahneun, how much did you pay in taxes last year, and what was the benefit you extracted from social services? what's your expected lifespan? hopefully you drop dead of a heart attack in your 50s while paying a lot of taxes. society would thank you. and if you're so concerned with the economic health of our social services, i imagine you've been declaring all your online purchases over $100 on your income taxes so you can pay the appropriate sales tax. shog[1].gif
post #97367 of 117677
It is if they lock themselves inside and I don't have to interact with them (especially on airplanes).
post #97368 of 117677
i like the idea of taxes paid vs. financial burden to society as a metric of worth. pretty hilarious. nahneun did you go to school in the US? how much financial aid did you receive? what was your major, and what's your income this year?
post #97369 of 117677
here's a better question: why would i disclose my personal information to you?
post #97370 of 117677
Lifestyle interruption. Just trying to get some exercise in, for society's sake

post #97371 of 117677
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Originally Posted by nahneun View Post

here's a better question: why would i disclose my personal information to you?

Because if you don't do what Teger says, he'll write another 1200 posts about his job search and thesis.
post #97372 of 117677
The end is nigh!
post #97373 of 117677
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Originally Posted by nahneun View Post

here's a better question: why would i disclose my personal information to you?

because you're so quick to condemn others for their personal choices. tit for tat. if your issue with obesity is that it's a public health epidemic, that's all well and good, but if you're simply angry that you might have to pay to support fat people's medical care with your tax dollars, then that's a different story. how do I know you're not using my tax dollars to go to school? why are you suddenly the arbiter of what's 'useful' spending and what's not? is it better to pay for quadruple bypass surgery, or to subsidize someone's english degree?
post #97374 of 117677
Come on teger you're in academia it's like right behind the military industrial complex and big agra in terms of benefiting from government policy.

Our tax dollars are paying for the subsidized student loans that allow the runaway inflation in tuition that pays your salary. Plus your employer has to pay like 0 taxes.
post #97375 of 117677
and that's why i'm not agreeing with nahneun's argument.

like i said, obesity is definitely a public health epidemic and needs to be addressed. but the motivation behind this need shouldn't be 'lets save tax $s', it should be 'we don't want to be a nation of obese people who drop dead of heart attacks at age 35'

a lot of the thin privilege/fat hate arguments are fucking stupid and ridiculous, but nahneun's argument here is just as retarded. it also has nothing to do with breezy's original post, which isn't even about obesity.
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post #97377 of 117677
why shouldn't i be concerned where my tax dollars are being spent? how is that not a socioeconomic concern when we could be allocating those funds for a better purpose because people are stupid with their health?

i'd rather pay for your history degree with my tax dollars than pay for an obese dude's surgery (even if the value added is questionable). also don't worry, i went to a private university. but basically, what you're telling me is that if you can be mad at me if your taxes went to pay for my possible public education, i can DEFINITELY be angry at you for going to a public university? foo.gif
post #97378 of 117677
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Originally Posted by nahneun View Post

why shouldn't i be concerned where my tax dollars are being spent? how is that not a socioeconomic concern when we could be allocating those funds for a better purpose? i'd rather pay for your history degree with my tax dollars than pay for an obese dude's surgery. also don't worry, i went to a private university. but basically, what you're telling me is that if you can be mad at me if your taxes went to pay for my possible public education, i can DEFINITELY be angry at you for going to a public university? foo.gif

first, no university is truly private, every university is subsidized to some extent through government funding, either directly or indirectly. this funding can even be as far removed as the ability for students to borrow money at lower rates than they would find on the open market.

you can concerned with how your tax dollars are being spent, but there's a difference between this concern and using perceived financial burden to social services as a metric to determine an individual's worth. you want fat people to lose weight so you pay less money in taxes. but what if someone is both fat and rich? is it ok for them to be fat? you seem to have no concern for the health of these individuals beyond the financial consequence their life inflicts on our health care system. that's pretty shitty dude, very dehumanizing.
post #97379 of 117677
Holy shit. Taxation is not supposed to benefit the person who pays it, personally. It is meant to create societal services, safety nets, and a better society and life for everyone, in a distributed general way. People getting mad that they don't always get as much or more out of the system than they personally pay in is what leads to stupid fucks like Ayn Rand.
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Finally, another SF'er who sees through Ayn Rand. fing02[1].gif

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(Though, OK, her book on objectivist epistemology was pretty good....)
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