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The WAYWT Discussion Thread - Page 6490post #97336 of 1176667/1/13 at 10:14ampost #97337 of 1176667/1/13 at 10:14ampost #97338 of 1176667/1/13 at 10:15amQuote:
thanks, mang. i liek the shoes though. what about them are you not feeling?
here is a close-up of them.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)post #97339 of 1176667/1/13 at 10:16ampost #97340 of 1176667/1/13 at 10:19amMostly my personal bias against both loafers and any type of toe stitching (nst/split tip/moc/etc). At first I thought maybe a different shade of suede would be better too, but I think I'll chalk it up to the aforementioned bias.post #97341 of 1176667/1/13 at 10:21amQuote:
i agree with you 100%. its just that they dont always come out just right from the tailor, and im too cheap and lazy to always have them micro adjusted. depending on the cut of the pants it needs to be an outseam of 37.75-38 inches.Quote:
i hear ya. horses for courses.post #97342 of 1176667/1/13 at 10:29amQuote:Originally Posted by slstr
You can change bad breath, and it's universally accepted as bad. Being overweight should not be seen as 'bad', some people are comfortable being overweight, some people can't help it, not everyone wants to or can be skinny and perfectly in shape, so it's not a thing that should be brought up as it just brings shame and self deprecation.
Would someone like to point out what is 'dressing accordingly' for someone who is overweight??
How is being overweight not bad? I don't want to pay for extra health care just because some fat guy can't control his eating habits.
Dressing accordingly while being overweight shouldn't be that hard. As a bigger guy you could, for example, use some Yojhi pieces instead of trying to fit into those 19cms. Keep in mind that you always have the option to simply lose weight unless you have some kind of medical condition.post #97343 of 1176667/1/13 at 10:38ampost #97344 of 1176667/1/13 at 10:46ampost #97345 of 1176667/1/13 at 10:47ampost #97346 of 1176667/1/13 at 10:59ampost #97347 of 1176667/1/13 at 11:00amQuote:
I disagree with that statement. Clothes are not going make you look better when you're skinny. Also anorexic looking models don't make me wan't to buy any clothes. Looking too thin is one the worst things about fashion.post #97348 of 1176667/1/13 at 11:12amQuote:Originally Posted by nahneun
All right, human rights was a terrible analogy for the obesity discussion, and I should have used a different example from yours to illustrate my point. I apologize for any misunderstanding.
For issues like obesity and body image, which is a public health concern and not a human rights concern, it ultimately falls upon the INDIVIDUAL to correct their unhealthy lifestyle choices. This is completely different from human rights which affects a specific sector of the population. When an obese person's problematic lifestyle choices are negatively affecting others societally or economically, there is a problem. If you're okay with being overweight, fine. It's up to you to come to terms with that. But then don't be depressed and ashamed that your body is not sculpturesque because you're comparing yourself to the models in fashion editorials and advertisements. Then you're clearly not okay with your body, and it's up to you to change that.
Alright dude, this post is just awful. Really terrible stuff. I don't think anyone here is saying that being overweight is healthier than being of 'normal' weight. There are obviously medical issues related to obesity. The problem is using obesity as a heuristic for general health. There are plenty of skinny people, myself probably included, who live unhealthy lifestyles and get away with it because we look different. Conflating weight with health is bad for overweight people, who get shamed by assholes like you, and bad for skinnyfat people like me, who get cultural approval anyway because we lucked out. More on that here and here.
Also, do you not see how ridiculous it is to call obesity a public health concern and an epidemic, and then claim that it's up to individuals to fix it? Contrary to what you're implying, obesity isn't evenly distributed across all races/genders/SES levels. So yes, it effects specific sectors of the public more than others. Lifestyle choices can lead to obesity, but systemic factors like income level, access to healthy food, time to prepare it, etc. play a broader and more important role. Some info on that here. Even taking that into consideration, shaming people is a terrible way to get them to change their habits.Quote:Originally Posted by thewho13
- I'm really self-conscious of my looks, and I can be easily vulnerable to insecurity. For me it goes back to being a really skinny dork of a Jew growing up in tan, blonde WASP-central. I still haven't shaken any of those insecurities (and I doubt I will). There's no need for anyone to put me in that box, and this extends to everyone else. Some people here probably grew up as the chubby kid, or the "ginger" kid, or the "ethnic" kid. No need to comment on people me bodies in a way that could easily trigger an insecurity about something they obviously already know about.
Yeah, this. You know why I got interested in fashion? The left half of my rib-cage is pretty significantly underdeveloped due to a birth defect (Bad Term), leading to me having asthma and looking kinda funny without a shirt on. I spent a long time when I was younger trying to come up with creative ways to cover it up. I still don't really like to talk about it. I'm sure most, if not all, people here have weird insecurities about their bodies. It's mean to harangue them about it, and it hurts the community.
Thanks for starting the conversation, breezy.post #97349 of 1176667/1/13 at 11:16amThank god, in a public health debate, there is an undergrad to link us to a social theory page.
(Your first clue: nahneun was talking about obesity -- which doesn't even factor into the linked article, penned by a sociologist).
(Not that I don't appreciate the sentiment)..
Edited by noob in 89 - 7/1/13 at 11:33ampost #97350 of 1176667/1/13 at 11:25amyeah afl i feel your points generally but linking to SI for anything remotely resembling "science" is
the fact is there is a link between obesety and health and any amount of fat acceptance bullshit pseudoscience isn't going to change that.
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