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Originally Posted by Teger View Post

bad on a lot of levels dude. also kind of offensive.

to elaborate: not only are you staging an advertising campaign wherein you're visiting veteran's memorials, you're doing it while wearing a yuck looking camo suit. not very tasteful at all.

 

Cranky Old Man!     ffffuuuu.gif

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I don't think you should include veteran's memorials in advertising campaigns like that.. if the shots aren't in the campaign, but were taken during the same time, that's fine, but it does't make me cranky to say it's just too much.

it's similar (in a way) to the controversy about bloggers and the holocaust memorial in berlin. lots of bloggers were taking photospreads among the monuments, and a lot of people (myself included) were offende by it. there's something intended to be .. private about commemorating dead soldiers (or victims of a tragedy), and i personally don't think that act should be the basis for an advertising campaign for a menswear brand. the act of sharing pictures on this forum is inherently trite and venal - showing off what material things you're wearing is inherently shallow, and there's something incongruous (and unspiritual even) about combining that act with a monument which is intended to convey a very reverential and solemn experience.

to elaborate even more, when we share fit pictures we're sharing them in an attempt to focus attention on us as individuals - ie: this is what I'm wearing, these are the clothes I own. it's very gratifying, and it's ego-stroking. contrast that with what war memorials are supposed to represent, which is the polar opposite of selfish self-glorification (the sacrifice of others), and I don't know... it's just wrong to me. not sure this makes sense.
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Originally Posted by Teger View Post

I don't think you should include veteran's memorials in advertising campaigns like that.. if the shots aren't in the campaign, but were taken during the same time, that's fine, but it does't make me cranky to say it's just too much.

I'm gonna call bullshit here...my family has fought, bled and died for this country, and just because I didn't serve, doesn't mean I didn't suffer the impact of a veteran who came home more than half a man in more ways than one. I was lucky enough to be born in a time when my country didn't need me, but for three generations before me, we weren't that lucky. I didn't grow up in some Leave it to fucking Beaver house, and the sole reason was the United States of America and its armed forces. So take your holy than thou elitest and entitled attitude and stick it right up your ass.
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Originally Posted by NewYorkIslander View Post

I'm gonna call bullshit here...my family has fought, bled and died for this country, and just because I didn't serve, doesn't mean I didn't suffer the impact of a veteran who came home more than half a man in more ways than one. I was lucky enough to be born in a time when my country didn't need me, but for three generations before me, we weren't that lucky. I didn't grow up in some Leave it to fucking Beaver house, and the sole reason was the United States of America and its armed forces. So take your holy than thou elitest and entitled attitude and stick it right up your ass.

I don't think you read my explanation for why I find the images somewhat offensive at all.
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Originally Posted by NewYorkIslander View Post


I'm gonna call bullshit here...my family has fought, bled and died for this country, and just because I didn't serve, doesn't mean I didn't suffer the impact of a veteran who came home more than half a man in more ways than one. I was lucky enough to be born in a time when my country didn't need me, but for three generations before me, we weren't that lucky. I didn't grow up in some Leave it to fucking Beaver house, and the sole reason was the United States of America and its armed forces. So take your holy than thou elitest and entitled attitude and stick it right up your ass.

 

 

It's the contrast of vanity next to something so significantly sentimental that makes it feel tactless. You're taking Teger's comments way too personally. 

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yep. almost all of my extended family died in the holocaust, and I'd never even consider taking a WAYWT photo next to a holocaust memorial. I believe that memorials (really, the function they serve) are important to society, and that using them as a platform to sell a product or show off your material possessions lessens their message.

an example would be the vietnam wall. if i took a fit picture every day, it would no longer be a wall commemorating the thousands of american soldiers who died in vietnam; rather it would be the marble block that's a backdrop to my latest purchase. and that would be a shame.
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OP/NCB/EG/Cloak/Guidi

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ncb coat? looks great. jelly 'cause where i am, jacket weather became a memory a few days ago
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yup, been raining on and off all day gotta milk it while it lasts

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In other news, in light of the retarded "don't wear camouflage because my family died in the Holocaust" fucknut direction that this thread has taken this afternoon:

 

This summer, we will be going to a remote jungle corner of Sumatra, in Indonesia, to the exact prison camp where my granddad (b. 1922) was interned during World War II.  He was working in Singapore, then a British colony, when the Japanese invaded in 1941, a few days after Pearl Harbour.  He, like all expatriates, was evacuated, by sea, to Australia.  His ship was torpedoed en route, and he was captured.  All "neutrals" who were captured, including those from countries which were under Nazi occupation and hence considered enemy-combatant nations by the Japanese although they had not, unlike Britain, officially declared war on Japan. were also interned, along with captured British and Americans

My granddad's camp wasn't anything romantic like Bridge on the River Kwai, but he did keep a diary that he managed to smuggle out, which was used in the prosecution afterwards.  It detailed use of slave labour for timber harvesting in the jungle to help the Japanese war effort, as well as deaths by malnutrition.  He didn't socialize with the Japanese prison guards, which is what is depicted in the romantic versions of prison camps.  But he also made it clear the Japanese did not eat prisoners for meat, as claimed by many internees during the prosecution.  Many guards and prisoners got involved with local women, many of whom were brought in as prostitutes, and specially selected for their large endowments upstairs...which the Japanese were apparently obsessed with.

 

So I may have a few half-Indonesian relatives out there.   Maybe I should post a fit against the makeshift graves in the jungle prison camp?

 

This place is a bit out of the way, though, from the main tourist traps of Java, Bali, etc.

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I do like Sumatran coffee though.
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I didn't get offended but that ugly suit and contrived photoshoot had me making the gas face.
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Originally Posted by NewYorkIslander View Post


I'm gonna call bullshit here...my family has fought, bled and died for this country, and just because I didn't serve, doesn't mean I didn't suffer the impact of a veteran who came home more than half a man in more ways than one. I was lucky enough to be born in a time when my country didn't need me, but for three generations before me, we weren't that lucky. I didn't grow up in some Leave it to fucking Beaver house, and the sole reason was the United States of America and its armed forces. So take your holy than thou elitest and entitled attitude and stick it right up your ass.

 

Not sure that's going to work, there's already a big stick up there...   rotflmao.gif

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Actually, context could have easily been missed, I failed to mention we're trying to raise money for The Wounded Warrior Project. 50% of all proceeds will be donated to the WWP in my grandfathers' names, so the ties are basically going at cost this week.
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